Collin Moshman's take on the Erick Lindgren Scandal

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Interesting, its more of TMM syndrome. there's probably lots more of this out there.
 
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Just read it...I had something similar happen to me from what Moshman wrote in his blog...Did a loan to a friend for some live play and took him like 3 months to pay back when initially it was going to be end of week but in the meantime he was going to concerts and all this other crap..Finally got paid (last friday) luckily it was only a few hundred and nothing like the kind their talking about erick oweing
 
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Hadn't heard about this 'til now. What a scumbag.
 
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Loaning money to people sucks so does borrowing. I loaned $100 to a friend for a poker league the day of registration. I had to hit him up every time I saw him at poker league. Even after he won a tournament he bailed instead of settling up right away, so lame. The league is now over he still owes me $50 but I'm over it. I'm not chasing him or loaning him $ again. It's kind of like brm. If you can't afford to not be paid back you shouldn't loan money.

I've borrowed money from friends and never feel right going out to clubs, casinos, etc..while owing them money, so I pay them back asap for my own peace.

A lot of these Vegas pros are dishonest by trade imo. They're gamblers. It's ingrained in them to always be playing angles on and off the poker tables. I find it very difficult to give money to someone who I only know by a screen name. For Edog it's prob easier to stroke these guy b/c he doesn't know them. My advice to these guys is to introduce themselves to Edog. I agree with Moshman that going public is protecting the community and it's like taking one for the team. There is only one way to get good or bad credit and that is to earn it.
 
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I don't know if Lindgren is a scumbag or not, he was very respected before, so, until he says something about this, for me, no one is right or wrong.
 
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Just shows you should never loan any money you expect to get back to a hardcore gambler such as E Dog... yeah he plays poker, but a lot of these guys are playin craps, prop bets on anything you can imagine.... I feel bad for these folks... but think of who you are trusting.
 
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I don't know if Lindgren is a scumbag or not, he was very respected before, so, until he says something about this, for me, no one is right or wrong.
After reading what he owes out in debts and the fact that he was a pro player for FTP makes you think he's not in the wrong?
If you owe money and go out and play cash games, tourneys and say you are cash broke(you need cash to play cash tables) then you will be labeled a scumbag.
When you're in gambling circles you should never have too much owing, you may just disappear one day because you owe money to the wrong person.
 
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While I think Lindgren is a scumbag for making people chase him down for money he quite obviously owes them, I have a hard time feeling sorry for most of these assclowns that made wagers with him and now are crying because they haven't been paid. If you read that whole 2p2 thread, you'll find Haralabos Voulgaris' post that basically explains that Lindgren has been a well known degenerate for years. He is also horrible at fantasy sports, he's pretty much dead money and doesn't even manage his teams. The vast majority of these guys that took side bets with him knew 100% going in that it was going to be a bitch to collect from him, but they took the action anyway because it was as close to a sure winner as you can get. It was a cycle year after year, Lindgren would bet, he'd lose, people would chase him down for 6 months, finally get paid and then the next year they'd do it all over again because it was basically the equivalent of a freeroll on a site you aren't sure will actually pay you. They basically dealt with his being a douchebag and never made it public because it was free money and they knew that eventually, after some major inconvenience and nagging, they'd always eventually get paid as long as they didn't trash his name publicly. Now that the Full Tilt gravy train has ended for Lindgren, these same guys are worried they might not actually get paid this time so they are taking it to the message boards in hopes that smearing his name through the mud will get results. Not defending Lindgren, none of this makes him any less of a piece of shit in my mind, but aside from a few people that might have taken action and legitimately not known he was a douche, it sounds like most of the people whining are just hypocrits that have been milking this cash cow all along and knew the risk of not being paid when they made the bets.
 
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I don't know if Lindgren is a scumbag or not, he was very respected before, so, until he says something about this, for me, no one is right or wrong.

He is not denying it - and it is confirmed so not sure why you would wait.
 
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Well, this whole thing sucks. Those FT people cannot be trusted, and certainly never loaned any money. I wonder what Durrrr thinks about this whole thing. Haven't heard from him in awhile, I'm gonna go look him up right now.

Hmm, his website says he is playing on FT. lol.

And his twitter hasn't updated since Sept 26th.

Oh, this was interesting, hadn't seen it before:

http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/1174043454001/online-poker-scam-leaves-players-out-millions/
 
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Having his name in posts, blogs, and threads calling him a deadbeat when it comes to gambling debts is like calling an organized criminal a rat will without question soil his name

The fact he's not answering these allegations makes him look even worse

He's like the kindegartner none of the other kids will want to play with because he smells like a dirty diaper

Others will exploit and prey on him....and use serious tactics to collect
 
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Why do they say he was -Ev in all theese bets?
Get payed when you win, and dont pay when you loose.
pretty solid +Ev IMO.
 
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Started reading Moshman's writings some months ago and I really like his blog and his take on things like that.
 
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