Attention ALL AMERICANS!!! IMPORTANT!!

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If only things were as simple as you make it sound. The machine is built of many different parts added over the years, and it is almost impossible to stop its momentum.
 
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Sheldon Adelsonis at it again with online gaming in the US

Use the links it Pooffys post.
 
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If only things were as simple as you make it sound. The machine is built of many different parts added over the years, and it is almost impossible to stop its momentum.

it is impossible for a single person to stop the momentum. BUT, when we all come together and stand strong we can make our voices heard through participation in elections, signing petitions, and contacting our representatives in the house and senate often enough that they will know our names!
 
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There is a 'chicken and the egg' dichotomy regarding politics in the US . . . are people apathetic because of the influence of money, or did monied interests step in when people became apathetic?

The people have the real power, unfortunately few of us exercise it, and strength is lost.

Why are players simply waiting for either government to figure it out or for the industry to show them the way? Why aren't more players writing bills and getting them introduced in their legislatures? It isn't good enough to just wait and see what happens, and then complain about the outcome.

Be involved!
 
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Folks need to speak up, and keep it up. Your legislators are only going to pay attention to this issue if you're paying attention to them. Without your voice, all that congress will hear is the points put out by the lobbyists intent upon keeping poker from becoming legal.

Letters, phone calls, and joining organizations that speak up for your right to play poker are the ammunition you can use to restore online poker play in the USA.

Make the call and write the letters today. Your voice DOES matter!
 
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While both parties can share the blame for the sordid state of affairs in this country one goes out of its way to protect the private contribution method of funding elections and the ridiculous notion that the legal status of CORPORATIONS IS THE SAME AS CITIZENS VIS A VIS FREE SPEECH.

If you want any chance of changing things, do not vote for the GOP in any national election.

If you do, you have only yourself to blame. They love private money in politics, in fact it is the life blood of their party and movement.

People like the Koch's just flood the system with money and it pays off for them 20 fold or more in the influence they obtain. Of course similar things happen on the left, but not to the same extent, and they would be willing to have bilateral cessation of private funding if it was offered.

STOP VOTING REPUBLICAN.
 
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People who swear loyalty to one party without regard to issue is the reason nothing ever changes. You are basically saying the most vile, corrupt Democrat is still better than any Republican, which demonstrates a close minded world view, where your point of view is the only one that matters.

This allows your 'home team' to do, or not do, whatever they want with impunity, because they can always count on loyal sheep to take their side.

it is nonsense like this that sees 80% of incumbents re-elected, and the spin cycle never ends.

BTW, there are NO Democrats in Congress fighting for online poker. The few in Congress on our side are Republicans. So keep whistling your partisan tune and see where that gets you.

While both parties can share the blame for the sordid state of affairs in this country one goes out of its way to protect the private contribution method of funding elections and the ridiculous notion that the legal status of CORPORATIONS IS THE SAME AS CITIZENS VIS A VIS FREE SPEECH.

If you want any chance of changing things, do not vote for the GOP in any national election.

If you do, you have only yourself to blame. They love private money in politics, in fact it is the life blood of their party and movement.

People like the Koch's just flood the system with money and it pays off for them 20 fold or more in the influence they obtain. Of course similar things happen on the left, but not to the same extent, and they would be willing to have bilateral cessation of private funding if it was offered.

STOP VOTING REPUBLICAN.
 
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I would think after being SO UTTERLY WRONG on the pokerstars issues, you would be a little more reticent to chime in.....then again Chutzpah and intellect are certainly 2 independent attributes within humankind.

Lol......

Who "swore loyalty" to anyone; what one earth are you babbling about?

Anyway, you've been exposed in the past, so I am not that interested in engaging. We saw who was on the right side and who dismissed things out of hand....wait, did Pokerstars roll back the changes we were talking about, I forget, lol lol....

You know, the ones you said player feedback would never roll back?

Help me remember, lol.

damn-it-feels-good-to-be-a-gansta.gif


People who swear loyalty to one party without regard to issue is the reason nothing ever changes. You are basically saying the most vile, corrupt Democrat is still better than any Republican, which demonstrates a close minded world view, where your point of view is the only one that matters.

This allows your 'home team' to do, or not do, whatever they want with impunity, because they can always count on loyal sheep to take their side.

it is nonsense like this that sees 80% of incumbents re-elected, and the spin cycle never ends.

BTW, there are NO Democrats in Congress fighting for online poker. The few in Congress on our side are Republicans. So keep whistling your partisan tune and see where that gets you.
 
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Just disgusting, I hope all of you Americans do what you have to do to Protect your own families...instead of this group doing it for you! What happened to democracy in your country? A few idiots want to tell you that you can't play rec poker online? are you kidding me? Stand up for your rights and let them know you won't take it any more!

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-news/18581-witness-list-released-for-anti-online-poker-hearing

Thanks. IMO, the thread title should be a little less dramatized though. I thought I was going to see something a lot more important than something I knew was going to happen in the first place.

This is good for people who are new to online poker in the USA & need this type of information. Thread title could say something like..."News for New USA Online Poker Players". When I see all the caps & the exclamation points in the thread title, it makes me think of a lot worse things in life than this.

I would think after being SO UTTERLY WRONG on the Pokerstars issues, you would be a little more reticent to chime in.....then again Chutzpah and intellect are certainly 2 independent attributes within humankind.

Lol......

Who "swore loyalty" to anyone; what one earth are you babbling about?

Anyway, you've been exposed in the past, so I am not that interested in engaging. We saw who was on the right side and who dismissed things out of hand....wait, did Pokerstars roll back the changes we were talking about, I forget, lol lol....

You know, the ones you said player feedback would never roll back?

Help me remember, lol.

damn-it-feels-good-to-be-a-gansta.gif

LOL
 
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I would think after being SO UTTERLY WRONG on the Pokerstars issues, you would be a little more reticent to chime in.....then again Chutzpah and intellect are certainly 2 independent attributes within humankind.

Lol......

Who "swore loyalty" to anyone; what one earth are you babbling about?

Anyway, you've been exposed in the past, so I am not that interested in engaging. We saw who was on the right side and who dismissed things out of hand....wait, did Pokerstars roll back the changes we were talking about, I forget, lol lol....

You know, the ones you said player feedback would never roll back?

Help me remember, lol.

I have no idea how anyone as pea-brained as you are could possibly become so arrogant, but I really wish you'd shut up (or grow up) ...

-HooDooKoo
 
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Contact your representatives. Not much else you can do. Only those that have enough power and money as well as a vested interest can actually shut this and Adelson down!
 
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Corporations are people and dollars are votes. I don't have enough dollars to make my vote count. I do vote, and I do contact my representatives about issues that I have an opinion on, and possibly he is listening, but it doesn't seem to ever make a difference. The federal machine is just too big.
 
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But in USA you can play live without problems. Or go to canada to play online.
 
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But in USA you can play live without problems. Or go to Canada to play online.

Ya, go to Canada to play.....err, what if you have a job, career, loved ones, community, inability to get a long term visa for any multitude of reasons, don't want/aren't able to play professionally.....etc. etc. etc.

Also, live play is far from perfect in the US; there are some options for many Americans, but the rake is insanely high because of an oligopoly the gaming companies have on casino licenses and the pressure for poker to compete in profit margin against things like slots/other table games.


The optimal system would be a card room system where liscensure and taxation would be reasonable but still a nice steady, maintainable stream of revenue for the municipality/state, a good provider of decent paying jobs for relatively unskilled folks in the community and still be able to be operated for a profit and provide fairly rakes games/donkaments for all the local players.


We are miles and MILES away from that reality.
 
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If only

I think I speak for everyone when I say that if there was something we could do about it, we would. Now, I'm not sure what country you're from, but if it were to do the same thing the US did, how would you go about reversing that decision? As of now, there are still poker sites that we americans can play on.. It just takes a fraction of a second extra to search for 'em.
 
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Poker should be legal online in all states
 
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Ya dude our government is all powerful now its too late to stop it. Though i dont agree with hardly any of it. I think anytime now the "machine" will fully take over, which is when i go underground and styart the rebellion. I could talk for days on gov conspiracy's. I dont trust itbut i dont want to bore u with my paranoia. Just know i agree.
 
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I really dont see why everyone puts up with this, why don't we just remove these people and vote in new congress people?We learned that in Government class.
 
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Caus as long as it isn't messing up your day to day life.. Nobody even realizes what these idiots do
 
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