Archie Karas found cheating!

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I guess you have to wonder how much of his money was won by cheating.
 
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I guess you have to wonder how much of his money was won by cheating.

True but it also makes me wonder how much was won by not cheating.. This article makes it look like he got to riches by cheating (maybe) but maybe not he was caught cheating at Black Jack. Wonder if he cheated in poker or not.. Stu Ungar wouldn't even play him he beat everyone in poker.

Also this article doesn't even mention the fact that he lost 40 million dollars in gambling as well..

I saw in a "comment" on the article some one said "what happened to the 40,000,000?? and another saying "he got greedy I guess" so some one who doesn't know his story isn't getting the hole story and those of us who do know his story are only getting half as well

Hmmm
 
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Here's an article from CNN and a clip reportedly from Poker.org

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(CNN) -- His was a rags-to-riches tale. A Greek immigrant who came to the United States and made it big. A waiter who gambled in his spare time. A poker prodigy who turned $50 into $40 million in just three years.

Archie Karas has described himself the "king of the gamblers," but authorities in San Diego are now calling him a cheater.

On Friday, police arrested the 62-year-old Karas, whose legal name is Anargyros Karabourniotis, at his home in Las Vegas, on allegations he marked cards during a blackjack game in San Diego in July. The alleged cheating was also caught on camera, according to authorities.

The alleged incident occurred at San Diego's Barona Casino. Karas won $8,000 playing blackjack, but San Diego District Attorney Bonnie Dumanis says video shows the gambler cheated with a technique known as marking cards.

Marking cards allows a player to identify the value of cards. If done correctly, neither the dealer nor other players notice the marks -- only the player who is in on the scheme.

"This defendant's luck ran out thanks to extraordinary cooperation between several different law enforcement agencies who worked together to investigate and prosecute this case," Dumanis said.

Karas is being held in Las Vegas without bail. He faces charges of burglary, winning by fraudulent means and cheating. He is expected to appear in court Monday for an extradition hearing.
It was not immediately clear if Karas has legal representation.

He won some, he lost some

Karas' exploits are legendary in the poker world.

In 1992, he went to Las Vegas with just $50. He got a $10,000 loan from a poker buddy at Binion's Horseshoe, according to Poker.org. Karas tripled the loan in one game.

From there he went on to bet and win at pool, then poker.

"I was the best," Karas told ESPN in an interview broadcast in 2008. "Anybody who'd come to town I'd play them, I didn't care who they were and I'd win, too."

But he had a problem, he recounted to ESPN. No one would play him anymore; he had simply won too much.

He didn't quit. Instead, he changed the game.

"I had to play dice," he told ESPN. He said lines of people used to show up to watch him bet $1 million on each roll. "I ran it up to $40 million," he recalled. "It was a lot of money."

But as quickly as it came, the money left Karas. He said he lost $20 million in 10 days. Soon, it was all gone.

It took him three years to win the $40 million and only three weeks to lose it.

If the loss hurt Karas, he didn't show it in his 2008 interview.

"I consider myself the king of gamblers," he said, chuckling. "I made it, I lost it and like Frank Sinatra says, I stood tall and I took the punches and I did it my way."


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i would more shocked if Karas was actually found NOT cheating
 
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:eek: I do not know the story, but are talking about a lot of money ... my god ...
 
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True but it also makes me wonder how much was won by not cheating.. This article makes it look like he got to riches by cheating (maybe) but maybe not he was caught cheating at Black Jack. Wonder if he cheated in poker or not.. Stu Ungar wouldn't even play him he beat everyone in poker.

Also this article doesn't even mention the fact that he lost 40 million dollars in gambling as well..

I saw in a "comment" on the article some one said "what happened to the 40,000,000?? and another saying "he got greedy I guess" so some one who doesn't know his story isn't getting the hole story and those of us who do know his story are only getting half as well

If anything it was actually Karas getting "cheated" when he went on his $40 million run - he did that pretty much exclusively playing craps, and in return for letting him play for such high stakes he allowed the Horseshoe to change to payout odds to increase the house edge on the game. It's a wonder he didn't go broke sooner.

As for cheating at poker, who knows? He comes from a different time and place and things like card marking were more common back then - apparently when the $50K HORSE event was introduced at the wsop it had some of the highest incidences of card marking because there were so many of those old school players in there playing for so much money.

Cheating aside though, what is certain about Archie's original run in poker is that excellent game selection played a huge part in it. Razz was his specialty, and when he ran up his initial few million he was very successful at getting worse Razz players to only play his games. I gather a big part of the reason he moved to playing craps instead was because the other big money poker players got wise to this and stopped giving him action.

As for his situation now, it's very sad. Degens gonna degen I guess :eek:
 
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