Any one else leary of OLP?

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Earlier today the CEO of Ultimate Gaming was on the news talking about the release of their new OLP site that's legal in Nevada. They were clear in pointing out, on national news that OLP is ILLEGAL every where in the United States unless you live in Nevada and are playing on their site.
Are we about to see increased enforcement of the laws against OLP players around the country?
 
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I hope as they legalize this that they do not keep the states segregated,
 
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OLP is *not* illegal everywhere else in the US. It sounds like he's either ignorant or spreading FUD in an attempt to draw attention to his business.
 
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I don't profess to be a lawyer, I have been under the impression that OLP has been "Illegal" since Black Friday basically due to it not being regulated by the "Feds". There are at least some sites that blocked players from certain states for various legal reasons.- * see some of my other post about OLP in Kentucky and other Common Wealth States. There are still some like Lock and juicy stakes who will not accept players from Kentucky. Others like Black Chip where not taking players from that state for about a year, but do now.
But they did specifically state that "Ultimate Poker" or whatever its called is the only "Legal" U.S. real money poker site in operation right now. And that's only legal if you live in the state of Nevada. The Ultimate Poker spokes person repeated that line several times in his news interview today.
 
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You don't have to be a lawyer, it's quite clear, and numerous lawyers and even the DOJ have spoken to it. Playing OLP has never been illegal in the US at a federal level. Lack of regulation does not make something illegal unless the law states it must be regulated to be legal. There are no federal laws on either side of OLP. In very few states, it has been banned in recent years. Very few, as in, maybe 3 or 4, and Kentucky's status as one of those has been in dispute recently. Black Friday changed no laws whatsoever, nothing became "illegal" after or because of BF. BF was an enforcement of UIGEA (which has nothing to do with OLP nor with declaring any form of gaming illegal), based on the DOJ's interpretation of The Wire Act at the time, and money laundering laws. It was not an action against players.

For years the DOJ used The Wire Act in an attempt to claim OLP is illegal, when many of us familiar with the law clearly understood it applied only to interstate sports betting (and predates the internet by about 30 years). Post-BF, the DOJ finally came clean and formally admitted that the Wire Act in fact did not apply to OLP, and there are no other federal laws that even come close. Without a law to expressly forbid OLP, the UIGEA does not apply to it, but the DOJ will not retroactively vacate their enforcement when it was found that criminal conspiracies occurred in the process of circumventing it by the sites. Once we have a legal judgment that establishes precedent, or legislative action that specifically excludes OLP from UIGEA, then the US market will again be open to OLP pending any new federal regulation around it.
 
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I thought the catch was how the OLP sites coded the EFT's for deposits?
 
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I am weary and I play on Carbon and Bovada. I haven't put more than 50 dollars on either site because I don't want it to be confiscated if something does happen.

One of my good friends did call me yesterday and he had made his deposit and one of the casino stations in Vegas and went home and started on ultimate bet and loved it. Played all night and told me he thinks he will play more online in vegas than live poker.

I just hope it all gets legalized again.
 
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Earlier today the CEO of Ultimate Gaming was on the news talking about the release of their new OLP site that's legal in Nevada. They were clear in pointing out, on national news that OLP is ILLEGAL every where in the United States unless you live in Nevada and are playing on their site.
Are we about to see increased enforcement of the laws against OLP players around the country?


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This explains how Rand Paul got a seat in the congress....

I lived in Cincinnati for awhile growing up and seriously thought I was a genius because of the intellectual caliber of the kids I was surrounded by.
 
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