Annie Duke Taking Heat at the 2012 WSOP

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"She sucks so that’s good for the game" haha Negreanu always lets you know his opinion.
 
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I suppose in ireland that would be par for the course and not all that insulting at all. Having said that, as scummy as she has been, she dosnt deserved to be cursed at, slow-rolled, angled and sucked out on, yes.
 
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Not to be an apologist for Duke, but the failures of UB and the Epic Poker League are not that different from the bankruptcies that happen every day in corporate America where top executives walk away with huge amounts of money and leave their creditors holding the bag and their employees without jobs. These men then go on to the next company.

Is there any reason to believe she didn't take these positions in good faith?

Wasn't the state of poker in the US a contributing factor to the league's failure?
 
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She should apologise herself though.

Its also not a very done thing that the top executives of a bust company sit down with former creditors on a day to day basis like nothing ever happened.
 
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She paid the entry fee so she has the right to play, end of story. However Daniel is right, she sucks and is good for the game. Also however annoyed you are with her, you have no right to say "**** you" at the table. She may be a bitch but she doesn't cheat.
 
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Not to be an apologist for Duke, but the failures of UB and the Epic Poker League are not that different from the bankruptcies that happen every day in corporate America where top executives walk away with huge amounts of money and leave their creditors holding the bag and their employees without jobs. These men then go on to the next company.

She should apologise herself though.

Its also not a very done thing that the top executives of a bust company sit down with former creditors on a day to day basis like nothing ever happened.
Exactly. As for UB, I don't blame her for anything with that, she was just a sponsored rep, not the CEO/President of the company and probably had little to do with the backend problems that happened with UB.

I agree she shouldn't be banned as it really has no affiliation with the wsop, but I really don't have any problem with people speaking their mind, regardless of what they say. Imagine if Russ Hamilton was at the table?
 
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yup showing up this year was bad form on her part........cursing at the table isn't allowed PERIOD. If she gets tried for fraud and stealing poker players deposits and is found guilty than yes she should be banned....you can bluff, donk, slowplay players out of chips just don't steal his money. It's the golden rule of poker.
 
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Runs in the family... :rolleyes:

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i heard one guy said f&&k you dead in her face, now that is gangsta..wow..she is scum and her brother
 
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Dewitt is just jealous to some degree I'm sure. In somedy its the same thing. When Whitney Cummings got her sitcom other crappy comics were putting her down. Annie has nothing to do with management - shes a face - and a promoter - thats it. She didnt cheat anyone - management did.$4 million = she doesnt suck at poker - it means she gambles hard - although matmatically bad, people fold to her (hence the A7 play by her into AJ - I'm guessing the AJ plyer hit a J or A - if not hes folding. But anyway - shes not that bad - Hellmuth is loved and is a dick at a poker table.
 
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Dewitt is just jealous to some degree I'm sure. In somedy its the same thing. When Whitney Cummings got her sitcom other crappy comics were putting her down. Annie has nothing to do with management - shes a face - and a promoter - thats it. She didnt cheat anyone - management did.$4 million = she doesnt suck at poker - it means she gambles hard - although matmatically bad, people fold to her (hence the A7 play by her into AJ - I'm guessing the AJ plyer hit a J or A - if not hes folding. But anyway - shes not that bad - Hellmuth is loved and is a dick at a poker table.

Annie was a founder of Epic Poker League with Pollack, not a face, so yes, she is responsible.
 
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Annie was a founder of Epic Poker League with Pollack, not a face, so yes, she is responsible.

^^This. So much this. It is beyond me why some people are always willing to give the "big name" pros a walk when it comes to responsibility. Before you excuse them and make statements such as they were simply a representative and not responsible for the outcome; people should do 2 minutes reasearch and find out what their role/responsibility actually was/is.
 
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This is nothing compared to the riot that will happen if Leaderer or Ferguson pokes their head in the door of the Rio...
 
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She's free to play and people are free to tell her what they think of her. What she did with the Epic Poker League was scummy. The controversies that have formed around several of her "charity" events. (search 2+2 if curious) are scummy. She was a pioneer for high level female poker players, I will give her that but it does not excuse the things that she has done.

Again, she has a right to be there and players have a right to tell her to **** herself. Freedom works both ways.

One more thing for the person who blamed the US situation on poker for the failure of the Epic poker league. She lives here. She knew the risks. Pre Black Friday we al knew that the hammer could fall at any time. She doesn't get to play the "OMG, I had no idea such a thing could happen"
 
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Okay I just don't get it - what did Annie do? A failed business venture? I really don't understand. She was called a disgrace to poker for the way she handled herself on The Apprentice. I watched the show and thought she was a credit to the game. Was nothing but dignity.
Negreanu says she literally smells bad and cheats.
She sucks.
She shouldn't be allowed in the building.

No really - WTF did she do????

Yeah she knew the poker climate after BF - but so did the investors - and if they didn't they are idiots for not exercising due diligence.

It's not like I am a fan - hell I don't even feel sorry for her
But what the hell did she do to cause this reaction to her presence when Tony G and Phil H are respected?

Any factoids out there?
 
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This is nothing compared to the riot that will happen if Leaderer or Ferguson pokes their head in the door of the Rio...
It would be a massacre....

She's free to play and people are free to tell her what they think of her. What she did with the Epic Poker League was scummy. The controversies that have formed around several of her "charity" events. (search 2+2 if curious) are scummy. She was a pioneer for high level female poker players, I will give her that but it does not excuse the things that she has done.

Again, she has a right to be there and players have a right to tell her to **** herself. Freedom works both ways.

One more thing for the person who blamed the US situation on poker for the failure of the Epic poker league. She lives here. She knew the risks. Pre Black Friday we al knew that the hammer could fall at any time. She doesn't get to play the "OMG, I had no idea such a thing could happen"
Exactly. When it comes to Black Friday, that happened in April, the first Epic tournament was in August, if there was really going to be a fallout from that, they could/should/would have had ample amounts of time to pull the plug before screwing people over.

Okay I just don't get it - what did Annie do? A failed business venture? I really don't understand. She was called a disgrace to poker for the way she handled herself on The Apprentice. I watched the show and thought she was a credit to the game. Was nothing but dignity.
Negreanu says she literally smells bad and cheats.
She sucks.
She shouldn't be allowed in the building.

No really - WTF did she do????

Yeah she knew the poker climate after BF - but so did the investors - and if they didn't they are idiots for not exercising due diligence.

It's not like I am a fan - hell I don't even feel sorry for her
But what the hell did she do to cause this reaction to her presence when Tony G and Phil H are respected?

Any factoids out there?
Found some reading for you:
http://scottyclark65.blogspot.com/2012/03/annie-duke-file-pt1.html
http://scottyclark65.blogspot.com/2012/03/annie-duke-file-pt-2.html
http://scottyclark65.blogspot.com/2012/03/annie-duke-file-part-three.html
http://scottyclark65.blogspot.com/2012/03/annie-duke-file-part-four.html
http://scottyclark65.blogspot.com/2012/03/annie-duke-file-finale.html
 
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Smells like a Lederer. Acts like a Lederer. Bolshevik like a Lederer...

Just stinks.

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what annie duke and the epic poker league did is ridiculous and should have never happened. she deserves every bit of crap that comes her way.
 
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If Annie wants people to like her again, all she has to do is tell where Howard Lederer is.
 
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Comes across a bit sad, male poker players tells female poker player to f off and boasts about it on twitter.

If they had just blanked her would have been far more effective.
 
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Okay so I went through Scotty Clarks stuff (for the second time) and I still do not see anything that would cause me to hate Annie Duke. In fact it was extremely biased and was really reaching to try to make her look bad.

How in the world can they can reach the conclusion that she was culpable in what happened at UB because she was 1.5% (ONE POINT FIVE PERCENT) owner shows someone who has no understanding of business.

I have been in those shoes - got investigated - called in and interrogated by the state department because I was a minority owner in a business that failed and ended up owing people money and I had no clue what was going on (and I had way more that 1.5%).
 
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Comes across a bit sad, male poker players tells female poker player to f off and boasts about it on twitter.

If they had just blanked her would have been far more effective.

Finding it necessary to relate sexual orientation into the tweet is a bit much, don't you think?

I agree the opinions of players should have been given in a more professional manner. I also believe she has every right to play the WSOP, but it's laughable to mention that he's a 'he' and she's a 'she'. :p
 
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kind of shows a touch of arrogance and a bad choice to show up imo.
 
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