Tilt Breaker

Here is a new kind of software i think i would fine this very usefull.First heard about this from Belgo in the Cash Thread i'm going to look into this.I've had brm issues in the past and i believe alot of us have tilt issues etc. link below.
http://tiltbreaker.com/

It's an interesting piece of software, although I have a couple issues with some of the features. One being Auto-Break when Winning a specific amount. I personally don't think it's a great idea to quit a session if you're running like God. OK, you won 5 buy-ins, better quit NOW! I just don't like that. I realize that you can turn on and off specific options like that, it just stuck out to me.

The feature I like the most is the bankroll Manager. I never have a problem playing above my roll, but I know a lot of people do, especially if they've been drinking or are on tilt or whatever, and that prevents it, as long as you have the program running, which brings up a problem.

Now I haven't downloaded this yet to check it out firsthand since I'm at work, I'm just reading the site. But the problem is, unless the install is integrated into your poker client's programs, all you have to do is close the program(CTRL-ALT-DEL even) and you're able to tilt off your entire roll. And if you're someone who really tilts like crazy, you're bound to say f%$& this stupid program, I know I can beat that motherf%&*er. So really, unless it's installed as a Windows Service or something, it can easily be circumvented.

I'll check when I get home and maybe I'll get back at you guys. Thanks for the info though JoeBob, I hadn't seen this before.

I downloaded it over the weekend but haven't installed it yet.

I was given a copy of this.

Its a really good program.

WVHillbilly said:

I downloaded it over the weekend but haven't installed it yet.

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When you install it. First of all just have say a lockdown after 300bb loss and dont add anything else.

A lot of people try and set up some overly fancy rules the first time, then get locked out and then moanm that TB has locked them out because they didnt realise what they were doing when setting it up.

Personally I just have a 500bb lockout and then "warnings only" every $100 profit made and every 1hr of play.

Sounds good but I don't like the idea of something like that integrating with your actual software, obviously it has some backdoor access to your details/account and bankroll to be able to initiate a blocker. How new is this programme? I think I'd like to see it running for a while before I considered it and besides which if you don't "have" to integrate it and just can close the programme down then it seems a bit pointless as when someone is tilting they would just close the programme now think "ok well, it's stopping me I best not disable the software" Emotions will take over and they will just disable regardless of what this programme does so when someone is in severe tilt mode they WILL disable the programme anyway so I don't actually 100% understand it.

Another factor is, say you do wish to intergrate it with your software and there is an event you're willing to go out of your BR to play in (say for example a special sunday million aniversary) then they just lock you out? There is no way of playing? I can see it becoming quite frustrating to be honest for some people and I really can see people emailing pokerstars for example and saying it's stopping them signing up for a tournament etc..

If someone is going to tilt of their roll then they are going to tilt of their roll regardless and if it's impossible to do that by the BR management option I think it might course some problems for someone wishing to disable it.


Sooo, at the end of the day if you can easily disable/enable options and so on then someone who is tiliting is for sure going to over ride this as emotions will beat a programme by pressing a few buttons? Kind of pointless in a way?

ramdeebam said:

Sounds good but I don't like the idea of something like that integrating with your actual software, obviously it has some backdoor access to your details/account and bankroll to be able to initiate a blocker. How new is this programme? I think I'd like to see it running for a while before I considered it and besides which if you don't "have" to integrate it and just can close the programme down then it seems a bit pointless as when someone is tilting they would just close the programme now think "ok well, it's stopping me I best not disable the software" Emotions will take over and they will just disable regardless of what this programme does so when someone is in severe tilt mode they WILL disable the programme anyway so I don't actually 100% understand it.

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Its safe. If you dont believe that then dont use it.

ramdeebam said:

Another factor is, say you do wish to intergrate it with your software and there is an event you're willing to go out of your BR to play in (say for example a special sunday million aniversary) then they just lock you out? There is no way of playing? I can see it becoming quite frustrating to be honest for some people and I really can see people emailing pokerstars for example and saying it's stopping them signing up for a tournament etc..

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It only locks you out of cash games. If you set a BR rule, then you are bound by it. If you dont like the idea of strict BR rules, dont use it.

ramdeebam said:

If someone is going to tilt of their roll then they are going to tilt of their roll regardless and if it's impossible to do that by the BR management option I think it might course some problems for someone wishing to disable it.

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Of course it will cause someone problems when trying to disable it, if it didnt it wouldnt really do what its supposed to do, I really cant see how ths can be considered a bad point.

Stu_Ungar said:

Its safe. If you dont believe that then dont use it.



It only locks you out of cash games. If you set a BR rule, then you are bound by it. If you dont like the idea of strict BR rules, dont use it.



Of course it will cause someone problems when trying to disable it, if it didnt it wouldnt really do what its supposed to do, I really cant see how ths can be considered a bad point.

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I'm not saying it is fraudulent or anything, it's just like a 3rd party programme that has more access to your account than yourself that's a bit worrying.

I understand the locking out of cash games etc but I wonder once you have set it, then what? Say you change your mind or something?

Yeah on the front with causing someone problems with trying to disable it I'm not saying it's a bad point as that's the whole reasoning for the programme in the first. I was meaning more in the sense of if someone feels they lost $100.00 for example and it locks them out but they start running good or there is a juicy game going and they are refused by a 3rd party programme to play it and feel this programme has control of their account then I can see some people becoming really frustrated with it and emailing the poker site or kicking up some sort of fuss. Or if someone has been locked out and they feel their tilt is over with now yet the programme is telling them they can't play yet I can see some people really getting wound up about it lol.

I'm not saying I would just in general,

Anyhow, it does seem quite good but I personally think most people who are grinding and so on would rather decide if they are on tilt or have appropriate BR management anyway and this software actually denies someone a chance of "taking a shot" so to speak.

ps: Who is it actually aimed at? I can't see any good winning players or pros using it that's for sure. I can only see really poor players and people who have real bad issues with BR management using it, so I can't see why you use it yourself or even billy considering using it. You both seem to have your heads screwed on in terms of BR management and the tilt part I'm guessing you could decide for yourselves when enough is enough and both are winning players anyway.

ramdeebam said:

I'm not saying it is fraudulent or anything, it's just like a 3rd party programme that has more access to your account than yourself that's a bit worrying.

I understand the locking out of cash games etc but I wonder once you have set it, then what? Say you change your mind or something?

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you cant change your mind until the lockout is over (its kind of pointless debating the pros and cons of this as its the core feature of the program.. if that dosent suit you then you should not buy the program).

ramdeebam said:

Yeah on the front with causing someone problems with trying to disable it I'm not saying it's a bad point as that's the whole reasoning for the programme in the first. I was meaning more in the sense of if someone feels they lost $100.00 for example and it locks them out but they start running good or there is a juicy game going and they are refused by a 3rd party programme to play it and feel this programme has control of their account then I can see some people becoming really frustrated with it and emailing the poker site or kicking up some sort of fuss. Or if someone has been locked out and they feel their tilt is over with now yet the programme is telling them they can't play yet I can see some people really getting wound up about it lol.

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again, if you use the BRM, then you cant change your mind until the lockout is over (its kind of pointless debating the pros and cons of this as its the core feature of the program.. if that dosent suit you then you should not buy the program).

ramdeebam said:

I'm not saying I would just in general,

Anyhow, it does seem quite good but I personally think most people who are grinding and so on would rather decide if they are on tilt or have appropriate BR management anyway and this software actually denies someone a chance of "taking a shot" so to speak.

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Obviously it isnt going to suit everyone, but the lockouts are the core functionality of the program. Other than locking you out after X losses or preventing you from "taking shots" this program dosent do all that much else!