Are there any HUD's trackers that auto colour label players?

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are their any softwares that auto colour labels tag fish etc?
I notice alot of guys have the players all labelled fish/good/bad/reg etc from diff colour labels...

is this something that takes a while and is needed to be done manually or do some softwares just colour highlight based on a players activity
 
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I have no idea but the first place I would look, or ask, for an answer are the forums on the respective HUD makers sites.

Do you have a preferred HUD? If so ask there first and then go on to the others if you have no luck.

Of course it's entirely possible that someone here will know but it would be more +EV on the software sites.
 
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Anything else?
Would you like it to play your hands for you as well?
 
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Colors mean different things to different people do I doubt it
 
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its all based on vp/pfr essentially anyhow so if your using a hud and have the hh to back it up just pick a color scheme for whatever, typically maybe blue for fish and red for nits an yello for regs or something like that. HM2 gives an indication icon based on the vp/pfr to indicate lag's, fish, whales etc but again all just knowing your standard vp/pfr stat meanings.
 
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Anything else?
Would you like it to play your hands for you as well?

I would actually prefer no one uses a hud. and online be just as live.
if you want to track players basically build your own notes portfolio and labelling so to speak.

I dont use any poker tracker and dont need one.
but im considering expanding at 50NL and investing,
Im happy to 4table and bring in 150-200 dollers a day min not essentially greedy but I may try doubling that as a trial with huds etc
 
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Colors mean different things to different people do I doubt it

Exactly. I doubt either(PT or HM) are going to do this out of box. I know with poker tracker you can have stats change color based on their value but I would think thats about as far as your going to come to what your talking about. Your going to have to set that up yourself when editing the hud. You can Make VPIP turn green if over 35 and red if under 10 or whatever color scheme you typically use. But these softwares aren't going to give you any added information. You still will need a large sample of HH to make accurate assessments of a villian's play.
 
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Exactly. I doubt either(PT or HM) are going to do this out of box. I know with poker tracker you can have stats change color based on their value but I would think thats about as far as your going to come to what your talking about. Your going to have to set that up yourself when editing the hud. You can Make VPIP turn green if over 35 and red if under 10 or whatever color scheme you typically use. But these softwares aren't going to give you any added information. You still will need a large sample of HH to make accurate assessments of a villian's play.


yea I guess the vpip's would be what I've seen in the past
 
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Actually both PT4 and HM2 HUDs support color coded stats. You define the ranges yourself. For example you might color code VPIP < 10 as red, < 15 as orange, < 20 as yellow, > 20 as green, etc. They aren't defined out of the box because they would vary depending on individual tastes as well as the game types played (HU, 6-max, FR, etc).

However, HM2 (and perhaps PT4, I have it also but don't recall) have auto-rate icons that will automatically assign little icons that represent styles like Fish, Whale, ABC, TAG, LAG, etc. automatically based on preset rules that you can tweak. These are defined out of the box with HM2 as shown below. In the HUD panel for each player (including hero!) those little icons will appear when their stats trigger the appropriate rule.

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Actually both PT4 and HM2 HUDs support color coded stats. You define the ranges yourself. For example you might color code VPIP < 10 as red, < 15 as orange, < 20 as yellow, > 20 as green, etc. They aren't defined out of the box because they would vary depending on individual tastes as well as the game types played (HU, 6-max, FR, etc).

However, HM2 (and perhaps PT4, I have it also but don't recall) have auto-rate icons that will automatically assign little icons that represent styles like Fish, Whale, ABC, TAG, LAG, etc. automatically based on preset rules that you can tweak. These are defined out of the box with HM2 as shown below. In the HUD panel for each player (including hero!) those little icons will appear when their stats trigger the appropriate rule.

autoraterules1b.png

Thats pretty impressive stuff. in theory its more relevent to a players current activity - they may have improved their game they might be tilting or leaking more than average for whatever reason.
where as an overlook of stats on poker tracker, can sometimes be decieving
or miss regarded
 
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Thats pretty impressive stuff. in theory its more relevent to a players current activity - they may have improved their game they might be tilting or leaking more than average for whatever reason.
where as an overlook of stats on poker tracker, can sometimes be decieving
or miss regarded
HUDs allow you to alternate between total stats or current session stats, so you can better spot where they might be adjusting for the current situation. They're also now supporting the ability to set historical constraints on the stats applied to the HUD, like only basing stats on the last 5000 hands or the last 6 months or whatever, so you can get a more accurate picture of a player who has been improving or just changing up his style since you first started playing against him.
 
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I would actually prefer no one uses a hud. and online be just as live.

That is why we created PokerAce HUD many years ago long before we integrated the HUD into PokerTracker 4... the goal of the HUD has always been to replicate a live experience to the best of our ability. Live players have the advantage of an large amount of information used in combination with your live tracker - the human brain. The human brain is not "programed" to remember screen names or styles of play, so we created the HUD to mimic this ability. The human brain can process the stats displayed to emulate how the brain works in a live game, combining the stats to create an opponent profile in your head so you know how to act or react vs an opponent. If you take two players of equal skill, one live and the other online. Then have them both play 5,000 hands of duplicate poker against the same exact opponents, the online player gets to use a HUD. Which player has the advantage, live or online?

[spoil]clearly the live player has a HUGE advantage over the online player with the use of a HUD... this is because the HUD does not provide an edge, it is only a performance enhancement tool to help you remember who your opponents are, the edge comes from within you as a player.[/spoil]

Exactly. I doubt either(PT or HM) are going to do this out of box. I know with poker tracker you can have stats change color based on their value

Coloring options in PT4 -

1) HUD stats can change color using stat ranges. This is performed in the HUD Profile Editor

2) You can manually define a color for a player, that color will outline the player's on-table HUD Group

3) You can define color expressions to change the colors of individual stats that affect all HUDs or all Reports in the Configure > Stats window. This is the most complex, but it is also the most flexable because using this tool you can change the color of a stat based on the results of any other stat or database column - for example you can change the color of 3Bet preflop based on the opportunities to 3Bet preflop by using an opportunity column rather than a stat.

Notice that we do not automate the colors of the player, that must be done manually. We found that automated colors (aka Autorate) was actually bad for the learning progression of a player, it can promote a misunderstanding of who your opponent is, so we removed this feature (we had this in PT3, removed when we were developing PT4). We are positive this was the right decision to make, but I must admit it was very controversial when PT4 was released... over time many players who chastised us for our development decision have come to agree with us as their own play advanced.

\However, HM2 (and perhaps PT4, I have it also but don't recall) have auto-rate icons that will automatically assign little icons that represent styles like Fish, Whale, ABC, TAG, LAG, etc. automatically based on preset rules that you can tweak.

Autorate icons were created in PokerTracker 2, we removed this when developing PokerTracker 4 due to the reasons explained above. Players are not advised to use auto-rating, this tool has been known to accidentally cripple players ability to grow, in some ways we regret ever creating this tool, it was an accidental disservice to our users.
 
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