Are Stars-, 888-, PartyCaption software totally legal to use?

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I just seen it in action today at some poker streaming and thought: "Wow, why the hell am i not using this cool stuff yet?" But then i thought: "Is it really allowed to use actually?" Do you use them yourself? And if yes, what experience you made with, does it worth to install?
 
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I just seen it in action today at some poker streaming and thought: "Wow, why the hell am i not using this cool stuff yet?" But then i thought: "Is it really allowed to use actually?" Do you use them yourself? And if yes, what experience you made with, does it worth to install?


I cannot attest if the software is legal or not. Supposedly, if used on its own, it is alright. But if you used with some of the integrations it can used with, such as Hand2Note, it might not be legal. Again, I am not sure.

One thing I can tell you is that the marketing of the software raises some alerts for me. One, their website is a free Google Site. If the software developer were reputable and successful, you would think they had enough money to get their own website.

Second, the methods of payments are done to the developers personal accounts at Shrill, paypal etc. The email address used for these accounts is a throw-away too, of which the name of the account looks kind of phishy, IMO.

Third, the developer is in Russia. Not to say that can be a bad thing, but you will be installing software on your system at your own risk and without any way to take action against this individual if things go wrong.

Personally, I would not buy or install the software. But that is just me.
 
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Okay i just sent a few days ago an e-mail to the support team of each poker room. Probably i should have done that from the beginning on. ^_^
Here is what i got so far.
888 didn't answer yet. Not amazed, it always takes ages, till they answer you. :/ Will update info later, when i got an answer.
Poker Stars said: "Permitted Software. Click on spoiler to read full text.
We can confirm that StarsCaption is acceptable for use with our platform.

The following types of tools and services are generally acceptable for use on our site:

- Tools and services that simply report basic game state information, such as pot odds or absolute hand strength.
- Tools and services that are static reference material and basic in nature, such as a single table-based starting hand chart.
- Tools and services that monitor and display numerical based statistics in-game, but make use of only information which you have accumulated through your own play.
- Macros and Hotkey programs that don't have any bearing on game-play logic.
- Tools and services that help you analyse your game but do not or cannot be setup to offer direct, real-time advice on the appropriate action to take.

A listing of software that we have reviewed and explicitly permits on our services can be found here:

www.pokerstars.com/poker/room/prohibited

The listing is not exhaustive, and does not include many small 'scripts' which players can use. If you have a query about a specific program not on the list, please send us details and we will review it for you.
Party Poker said: "...you can use PartyCaption software on your own responsibility" Click on Spoiler to read full text.
Thank you for contacting Customer Service.

We would like to kindly inform you that we can not warranty for different software except our own for playing on PartyPoker games.

Please be kindly advised that you can use PartyCaption software on your own responsibility.

Thank you for your understanding.

So it's 2 yes for me and now waiting for 888. Will update it, as soon as i get answer, but i am already awaiting third yes.
 
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Seems like you can use it. Gotta love PartyPokers command of the English language. :)
 
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As I understand it, these programs only allow you to fine - tune poker clients. And should be official.
 
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So it's 2 yes for me and now waiting for 888. Will update it, as soon as i get answer, but i am already awaiting third yes.

Wow it took really a while to get an answer from 888. (Throwing a stone to their support garden. You should be working quicker guys! ^_^) partypoker & poker stars were quick as lightning in comparison, but well, the main thing i got the answer now! Tada!
Connie N. Member Support Representative said:
888.com approves the software.

So it's 3 yes now, if you want to use it, just download it for free, install and enjoy! :wavey:

Have to remind, that it's absolutely free up to NL10 cash games and up to $3 buy-in for Tournaments. If software detect any higher limit games, it will shut down itself automatically without warning. For using it on higher limits, you have to buy each of them.

However, if you are playing only at one of the rooms, it's not that expensive at all.
You pay $24 per year for using full version of StarsCaption, $25 for 888Caption and $30 for PartyCaption.

p.s. While i was testing these software, i found a pesky bug in it. Although i was playing under $3 MTTs and freerolls, StarsCaption and PartyCaption didn't work to detect proper buy-in at few of the Freerolls. ($250 Weekly Booster at PartyPoker for example) So it just shutted down itself and didn't want to start again, until i finished to play in that Freeroll. I wrote an E-Mail to PartyCaption support team, but they told me, that they know about this bug, but can't really do anything with it and recommend me to buy the full version to avoid this bug in the future.. :rolleyes:
 
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I just wanted to dig out this old thread to share with you my experiences of using all of three Captions since 3 months.

Guys... i love it! Seriously, i don't want to sound like i advertising it, but i do really love it. There are Top 5 features, this software adds, which i hadn't before and i found extremely useful:
  1. Actions HUD. That's my favorite. Caption simply watching, what actions your villains did till now and shows it under their name. Man... i can't really overrate how useful it is! It's essential stuff for anyone who likes multitabling, as i do! In addition you may add information about amounts of blinds been raised or called on every street and how long it took him for every action. Great stuff!
  2. Converting stacks and bets into BB. Forget the huge amounts of chips in Tournaments, everything in BB. Makes it very simple and clear on one hand. On an another, you know, it's kind of psychological thing... Many people tighten their game up at late phase of the tournament, because they start to see huge amounts of chips to call. Forget about it with Caption. No matter, if at the beginning or at the end, you see just small numbers of Big Blinds. Great idea. On top of that, you even could set it to change it's color, depending on amount. For example, you could set it to turn red after a stack goes under 15BB, so you know that Stack/Player is in "Push or Fold" situation right now. Sweet feature!
  3. Another good one - Positions. With Caption you may set and bring a positions HUD on. So you don't have to waste precious time for counting players at the table to define at which position you or your villain at the moment is. Simple but helpful.
  4. Hotkeys. Well, if you are playing just Poker Stars, you don't really care about this one. Because it has already feature to set any action at any button. But since you feel the taste of it at Poker Stars, it will bother you a lot at 888 or Party Poker. Because they don't have this option! And you got used to and need it! Caption removes this issue. You may set up hotkeys through this software, as if you were playing at Poker Stars. Essential thing for me.
  5. Many different less significant features, but still nice to have them. You can set up Caption to do for you many little things automatically, which makes your grind way more easier:
  • For example, you could set up, that when it's your turn, your betting slider is already at x3 BB (or x2,5 BB). Can also set up it depending on range in amount of chips for early, middle or late phase of the Tournament.
  • There is a nice feature, that clicks for you "I'm back" button, when you went away and your time bank is out. That saves you extra time.
  • There is a feature, that Caption will click for you all those bothering one-okay-button windows popping-up.
  • You can set a position and a size of a new table. (Great one for multitabling)
  • And from it's HUD i also love to have at my tables: how many places ITM stat, SPR stat, Stack to Pot in % (Pot Chances) and how many seconds it took for someone to make his last action stat.
Overall i can say it's a great software i recommend to use, it gives you those extra, that maybe make your game slightly better, but also more comfortable to play. And it's free up to $3 games and NL10 cash games. If you want to use it on higher limits, you have to buy a year license, otherwise it will shutdown automatically, until you close the table with too high buy-in.

I hope my little review will help somebody. I also ready to help, if you have some issues with it, if i can. Don't hesitate to ask! ;)
Here is a link to official site with downloads.
 
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I just wanted to dig out this old thread to share with you my experiences of using all of three Captions since 3 months.

Guys... i love it! Seriously, i don't want to sound like i advertising it, but i do really love it. There are Top 5 features, this software adds, which i hadn't before and i found extremely useful:
  1. Actions HUD. That's my favorite. Caption simply watching, what actions your villains did till now and shows it under their name. Man... i can't really overrate how useful it is! It's essential stuff for anyone who likes multitabling, as i do! In addition you may add information about amounts of blinds been raised or called on every street and how long it took him for every action. Great stuff!
  2. Converting stacks and bets into BB. Forget the huge amounts of chips in Tournaments, everything in BB. Makes it very simple and clear on one hand. On an another, you know, it's kind of psychological thing... Many people tighten their game up at late phase of the tournament, because they start to see huge amounts of chips to call. Forget about it with Caption. No matter, if at the beginning or at the end, you see just small numbers of Big Blinds. Great idea. On top of that, you even could set it to change it's color, depending on amount. For example, you could set it to turn red after a stack goes under 15BB, so you know that Stack/Player is in "Push or Fold" situation right now. Sweet feature!
  3. Another good one - Positions. With Caption you may set and bring a positions HUD on. So you don't have to waste precious time for counting players at the table to define at which position you or your villain at the moment is. Simple but helpful.
  4. Hotkeys. Well, if you are playing just Poker Stars, you don't really care about this one. Because it has already feature to set any action at any button. But since you feel the taste of it at Poker Stars, it will bother you a lot at 888 or Party Poker. Because they don't have this option! And you got used to and need it! Caption removes this issue. You may set up hotkeys through this software, as if you were playing at Poker Stars. Essential thing for me.
  5. Many different less significant features, but still nice to have them. You can set up Caption to do for you many little things automatically, which makes your grind way more easier:
  • For example, you could set up, that when it's your turn, your betting slider is already at x3 BB (or x2,5 BB). Can also set up it depending on range in amount of chips for early, middle or late phase of the Tournament.
  • There is a nice feature, that clicks for you "I'm back" button, when you went away and your time bank is out. That saves you extra time.
  • There is a feature, that Caption will click for you all those bothering one-okay-button windows popping-up.
  • You can set a position and a size of a new table. (Great one for multitabling)
  • And from it's HUD i also love to have at my tables: how many places ITM stat, SPR stat, Stack to Pot in % (Pot Chances) and how many seconds it took for someone to make his last action stat.
Overall i can say it's a great software i recommend to use, it gives you those extra, that maybe make your game slightly better, but also more comfortable to play. And it's free up to $3 games and NL10 cash games. If you want to use it on higher limits, you have to buy a year license, otherwise it will shutdown automatically, until you close the table with too high buy-in.

I hope my little review will help somebody. I also ready to help, if you have some issues with it, if i can. Don't hesitate to ask! ;)
Here is a link to official site with downloads.
Thank you so much brother! There's a limited amount of info on this site & I'm glad to have been enlightened in my favourite forum!! Like I don't know if it'd still working in 2019 but I'm about to take a chance & get both of them, worried about party really!
I'm getting it only for the odds feature that's what caught my eye!
Decent review cheers Alien keep crushing
 
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Outdated info

Please note that PartyPoker has changed its policy on 3. party software including HUDs, since this was originally posted. This mean, that the thread might be outdated, as far as Party is concerned!
 
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Hey,
thanks for the caution fundiver199 but I've actually emailed Party & they've confirmed that it's one of the few that's allowed!
Cheers
Please note that PartyPoker has changed its policy on 3. party software including HUDs, since this was originally posted. This mean, that the thread might be outdated, as far as Party is concerned!
 
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Yes, I stopped working with the holem indicator program on party poker .it used to be allowed.On poker stars allowed
 
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