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Had been playing at PPN poker. Recently purchased a new computer with Windows7 and Webroot anti virus and Spysweeper. Each time I've tried to install the PPN software on the new computer, my new antispy software has caught two pieces of malware...without which the PPN software will not function. PPN tech support repeatedly assured me that it wasn't real malware, merely something vital to the operation of PPN's software. I haven't had any such trouble installing other poker rooms' programs.
 
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Sometimes security measures or other safe code, etc installed on certain poker rooms software shows up as malware on peoples computers (depending on which anti-virus, anti-malware you use). As example, Prima/Microgaming gave away a lot of free money and included a registry entry in their program to prevent people from using the same computer more than once to sign up for free money, and it showed up on many anti-malware as malware.

It is more than doubtful a known room such as this actually has harmful software unless you see it posted that a known malware has been introduced. I would donwload it and not worry bout it.

Just as an asideYour Anti-Malware of choice should 100% be Malwarebytes' as it is known as the best available atm by far. Not very familar with Webroot used as Anti-Virus and that worries me, but I see Cnet gives it a decent review so that is OK. I have webroot but I use it as more of a spyware program backup. Still, if I were you I would research this product more as Anti-Virus is very important to get right.
 
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Sometimes security measures or other safe code, etc installed on certain poker rooms software shows up as malware on peoples computers (depending on which anti-virus, anti-malware you use). As example, Prima/Microgaming gave away a lot of free money and included a registry entry in their program to prevent people from using the same computer more than once to sign up for free money, and it showed up on many anti-malware as malware.

It is more than doubtful a known room such as this actually has harmful software unless you see it posted that a known malware has been introduced. I would donwload it and not worry bout it.

Just as an asideYour Anti-Malware of choice should 100% be Malwarebytes' as it is known as the best available atm by far. Not very familar with Webroot used as Anti-Virus and that worries me, but I see Cnet gives it a decent review so that is OK. I have webroot but I use it as more of a spyware program backup. Still, if I were you I would research this product more as Anti-Virus is very important to get right.

Thanks for the feedback. What you say about a known room steering clear of harmful software does sound reasonable. PPN is probably okay in this regard.
Thanks again.
 
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First, false positives happen all the time. Next, over-zealous AV products are quite common. AV software classifies malware a lot of different ways, and it's an imperfect science. When they don't have specific information on a specific piece of code, they make heuristic guesses based on the code signatures they detect. Problem is, those code signatures can be used in a lot of legitimate ways. Without any database knowledge about the code telling them otherwise, they will often err on the side of caution (or stupidity) and flag such as malware. I write software for a living, and have had my own code flagged on a number of occasions. EXE packers and code encryptors, for instance, commonly generate false hits.

If you ever have a question about a specific file or files, and aren't sure whether the problem might be your AV product, the best options are first to evaluate the situation with common sense: why would a (presumably, I don't know anything about PPN) legit poker site infect their users with malware? It makes no sense. And if it were an accident, it would have been caught and rectified quickly.

Also, use other resources to double-check. My suggestion is VirusTotal, which is a free service that will take your uploaded files and run it through ALL the major AV products, including many you've never heard of, and give you a report of what each one finds.
 
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First, false positives happen all the time. Next, over-zealous AV products are quite common. AV software classifies malware a lot of different ways, and it's an imperfect science. When they don't have specific information on a specific piece of code, they make heuristic guesses based on the code signatures they detect. Problem is, those code signatures can be used in a lot of legitimate ways. Without any database knowledge about the code telling them otherwise, they will often err on the side of caution (or stupidity) and flag such as malware. I write software for a living, and have had my own code flagged on a number of occasions. EXE packers and code encryptors, for instance, commonly generate false hits.

If you ever have a question about a specific file or files, and aren't sure whether the problem might be your AV product, the best options are first to evaluate the situation with common sense: why would a (presumably, I don't know anything about PPN) legit poker site infect their users with malware? It makes no sense. And if it were an accident, it would have been caught and rectified quickly.

Also, use other resources to double-check. My suggestion is VirusTotal, which is a free service that will take your uploaded files and run it through ALL the major AV products, including many you've never heard of, and give you a report of what each one finds.

Wouldn't VirusTotal conflict with the other AV software on my computer?
 
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Wouldn't VirusTotal conflict with the other AV software on my computer?
No, you don't install it. It's a web App. They host the AV engines. You upload the file(s), they scan them.
 
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No, you don't install it. It's a web app. They host the AV engines. You upload the file(s), they scan them.

Thank you for info. I will definitely check it out.
 
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