Is it allowed?

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The poker tracking tools are alowed to use in pokerstars/full tilt and 888poker sites?
What is legal and what is it not allowed to be used in this poker tracking tools systems?
 
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My opinion

Just use the tools till they get mad at you. It shouldn't be your fault and they need to their job.
 
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Ok, many thanks, but I prefer to not take risks in this case.
 
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I thought most poker players online used tracking tools???
 
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You aren't cheating anyone. Rooms can't learn about tools if you don't tell about or show your playing.
 
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I did not understand Tryto what are you trying to say. How can I show my playing or tell about?
 
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I think at 888poker everythink is allowed :D . (see somewhere/from someone else-I don' know.)
At pokerstars they have some tools you cannot use while programme is running and some you must not use never . check https://www.pokerstars.com/poker/room/prohibited/ I guess this is the page you seek.

SOFTWARE/PROGRAMMS ALWAYS FORBIDDEN

Advanced Poker Calculator
CardAnalyzer--Frogbot--FullAutoHoldem--Gambot--Hand HQ
HH Repository --HHCollector --HHdealer
hhSmithy-- Hold'em Watcher-- Holdem Hawk
Holdem Inspector a.k.a. Online Holdem Inspector Holdem Pirate-- Holdem Spy
Holdem Tournament Raider-- ICM-Bot-- iHH Harvester
Mandraker-- MyPokerIntel-- NoLimitFoldem
Online Omaha High Inspector-- online poker Bot --Online Tournament Inspector
Open Holdem Bot --OPI Wizard --Paragon Poker Pal
Poker Android-- Poker Bloodhound-- Poker Bot+
Poker Crusher --Poker Edge --Poker Inspector a.k.a. Online Poker Inspector
Poker Mate --Poker Prophecy --Poker Sherlock
Poker Sidekick-- Poker Table Manager --Poker Usher
POKERobot --Preflop Autofolder-- Preflop Poker Bot
RatingViewer-- Seeker-- Sense Mind
Shanky Bot --SharkMate-- Sit And Go Shark
Sit n' Go Brain-- Sixth Sense SmartCollector a.k.a. Mixed Harvesters
SpadeEye --Stars Hand History (SHH)-- SpinWiz
StarSpy-- StatsForPoker --Stud Inspector
Table Ratings aka Poker Table Ratings-- Texas Auto Fold --WarBot
WinHoldem



SOFTWARE/PROGRAMMS FORBIDDEN ONLY WHILE POKERSTARS SOFTWARE IS RUNNING (so they must not be running at the same time )




ALL IN Expert --Chart Helper-- CoffeeCalcs
ColoringTool-- ChartManager --ChartView
Holy Grail of Poker-- Hold'em Signs-- HoldemResources Calculator
Limit Hold'em Pre-flop Hand Advisor by Intellipoker-- ICMIZER-- Jennifear
OmahaChecker-- PokerStrategy's Equilab-- PokerStove
PokerStrategy ICM Trainer-- Poker Push Bot-- PreflopSSS
ProPokerTool's odds Oracle --SAGE Decision Calculator-- PushPot
RangeEdge --Sit n' Go End Game Tools-- Short Stacking Strategy Calculator
SimpleNash-- SNG Solver --SitnGo Wizard (v1.0.1.162 and older)**
SNG Power Tools-- Texas Calculatem-- Spade ICM
STT Analyzer by PokerSoftware
 
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I think at 888poker everythink is allowed :D . (see somewhere/from someone else-I don' know.)
At pokerstars they have some tools you cannot use while programme is running and some you must not use never . check https://www.pokerstars.com/poker/room/prohibited/ I guess this is the page you seek.

SOFTWARE/PROGRAMMS ALWAYS FORBIDDEN

Advanced Poker Calculator
CardAnalyzer--Frogbot--FullAutoHoldem--Gambot--Hand HQ
HH Repository --HHCollector --HHdealer
hhSmithy-- Hold'em Watcher-- Holdem Hawk
Holdem Inspector a.k.a. Online Holdem Inspector Holdem Pirate-- Holdem Spy
Holdem Tournament Raider-- ICM-Bot-- iHH Harvester
Mandraker-- MyPokerIntel-- NoLimitFoldem
Online Omaha High Inspector-- Online Poker Bot --Online Tournament Inspector
Open Holdem Bot --OPI Wizard --Paragon Poker Pal
Poker Android-- Poker Bloodhound-- Poker Bot+
Poker Crusher --Poker Edge --Poker Inspector a.k.a. Online Poker Inspector
Poker Mate --Poker Prophecy --Poker Sherlock
Poker Sidekick-- Poker Table Manager --Poker Usher
POKERobot --Preflop Autofolder-- Preflop Poker Bot
RatingViewer-- Seeker-- Sense Mind
Shanky Bot --SharkMate-- Sit And Go Shark
Sit n' Go Brain-- Sixth Sense SmartCollector a.k.a. Mixed Harvesters
SpadeEye --Stars Hand History (SHH)-- SpinWiz
StarSpy-- StatsForPoker --Stud Inspector
Table Ratings aka Poker Table Ratings-- Texas Auto Fold --WarBot
WinHoldem



SOFTWARE/PROGRAMMS FORBIDDEN ONLY WHILE POKERSTARS SOFTWARE IS RUNNING (so they must not be running at the same time )




ALL IN Expert --Chart Helper-- CoffeeCalcs
ColoringTool-- ChartManager --ChartView
Holy Grail of Poker-- Hold'em Signs-- HoldemResources Calculator
Limit Hold'em Pre-flop Hand Advisor by Intellipoker-- ICMIZER-- Jennifear
OmahaChecker-- PokerStrategy's Equilab-- PokerStove
PokerStrategy ICM Trainer-- Poker Push Bot-- PreflopSSS
ProPokerTool's Odds Oracle --SAGE Decision Calculator-- PushPot
RangeEdge --Sit n' Go End Game Tools-- Short Stacking Strategy Calculator
SimpleNash-- SNG Solver --SitnGo Wizard (v1.0.1.162 and older)**
SNG Power Tools-- Texas Calculatem-- Spade ICM
STT Analyzer by PokerSoftware

Thanks a lot. Very usufull list, but if not can ben runned while the PS software is running, how can it helps meanwhile the tournament ocurs?
 
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it's always work around, if you want to use some of those software, and if you search the net about it, then you can find what you can do with VM running some or open on 2nd monitor or via 2nd laptop connected remotely to your....
possibilities are endless.
I am not suggesting you do, nor I am advocating that you do use them, just my $.02
 
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They dont want you collecting numbers that will prove their RNG is rigged. So they make all software that collects that data banned!
 
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They dont want you collecting numbers that will prove their RNG is rigged. So they make all software that collects that data banned!

Maybe! The site says: "The practice of datamining (observing games without playing in order to build up a database of hand histories for future reference) is prohibited."

This question is curious.
 
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Boy do we have a thread for you.

ya ya ya i know how those threads go... something like "proof or it didnt happen" or "your sample size is too small" ... and that proves the point further on why the have this ban in place, to prevent a large enough sample size to prove a case using numbers...


Can you point to an audit of any online pokerroom and the acutal results of that audit made available for public review and scrutiny? The best youll get is an explantation on how they do an audit that is extremely vague, like "we use a mathematical equation and run a string of 300M numbers from the RNG".

Lack of proof for either side and the prevention of the gathering of evidence by one particular side weighs the scale of guilt one way.. you be the judge on which way.
 
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Datamining is banned because it gives the dataminer an unfair advantage over "normal" users . The idea being you should only get reads from hands that you have played , not from hundreds of tables that you had open at a time and software then gives you those reads because you are unable to physically take those notes yourself on each player tendencies. This logic also applies to buying datamined hands.

You wanted an audit of an rng . http://www.gaminglabs.com/extranetGLI/cmsAdmin/getsplash.asp?i=190
 
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I believe at audit. However, it is as if there was something there. For example, at gas station there tampering with the fuel pump by remote control. The schema is so sophisticated that you don't perceives that they robbed your pocket. The fraud leaves no clues to "spy" technique.

And why is it so hard discover this fraud? Because the pump works correctly until that the owner of the gas station or your manager enable the fraud with the remote control. A common control. When the inspection arrives, he turns off the fraud. When the inspection comes out and the consumer arrives, he again active the fraud by radio frequency. She has a radio transmitter exactly as exists at garage gate.
 
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Anyway, better ask about it - exactly from support of poker room.
Do it - via calling them, or - via e-mail.
They send you the list of software.

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