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Anyone know of a good free ICM calculator I can copy and paste Hand Histories of my SNG's/MTT's? I know there are some good free trial ones but would like to know if there is a free one out there. Thanks a ton!
 
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ICMIZER is a pretty good one because it let's you play with stacks, ranges, nash ranges...
They offer 5 free/day, that's enough for me as I play mtt's mainly, but if you play sng's you might wanna buy it, or sng wizard, it's worth the money
 
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Yeah the thing is I have the 30 day free trial for sng wizard and its telling me I should be doing really odd stuff like on the bubble in SB to be shoving any two (100.0%) and a very understood friend of mine who knows ICM very well said that sng wiz is on crack. He copy and pastes the same scenario in hold em calculator and it says it's a negative ev play... He also recommended ICMIZER so I will try that one out thanks a lot.
 
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post here one of those hands, you're probably misreading or inserting info wrongly.
And yes it's greatly recommended that you shove ATC from the sb at the bubble of an sng in certain spots, that's std, so it may be a lack of theory too.
Make sure to read about ICM and bubble factor or else you'll be a monkey "on crack" operating blindly.
Ask your very understood friend if his hold'em calculator takes into account ICM calling ranges, or if it's just cev+..
 
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Yeah the thing is I have the 30 day free trial for sng wizard and its telling me I should be doing really odd stuff like on the bubble in SB to be shoving any two (100.0%) and a very understood friend of mine who knows ICM very well said that sng wiz is on crack. He copy and pastes the same scenario in hold em calculator and it says it's a negative ev play... He also recommended ICMIZER so I will try that one out thanks a lot.

they are both the same thing, lol. the only difference between sng wiz and icmizer is that icmizer you can fully customize the ranges, whereas sng wiz relies on sklansky chubukov ranges. which makes icmizer the best choice.

you shouldn't really be using it if you don't know what you are doing. at the end of the day it's just a calculator and is only worth the numbers you input into it. get them wrong, or get your opponents ranges wrong/edge % etc and you will get bad results.

if you want, post a few hands here and i'll discuss the things you need to consider when using it. or just get your friend to help you out. but if he recommends icmizer and thinks sng wiz is terrible, he probably doesn't know too much.
 
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