Originally Posted by Odysseus101
Is there any evidence, circumstantial or otherwise, of the site using bots to bump the site's rake? I know that people who get screwed by PS think that it's fixed and there's some evidence that the river isn't exactly random (or used to be), but does anyone have any info about the site using bots? On PS or other sites?
I really can't believe they would even try to do that. Now I speak about Pokerstars. The stakes are way too high for them, with all the sponsorships and so on. They risk way too much if their sayings about integrity aren't correct. They also explain what measures they take in being safe and honest. It's not that hard to find online.
You should be very sceptical when you read some forums with haters or paranoiacs. The most players who shout things like 'jokingstars' of 'botstars' mostly are frustrated by their losses and don't understand the importance of variance in the game. You know ... most players think they're better that average, however they mostly fool themselves. It's simple psychology. When we love something, do it alot and have some successes with it, we assume we're good in it. We fool ourselves with that.
About the dealing of cards: Well with computers nothing is truly 'random'. Every software RNG (random number generator) is an algorithm that is applied to a changing number. (usually the time, which more specifically, is the number of 100-nanosecond ticks since January 1 1601/1970/1980/2001 depending on your OS) They take this number and apply a series of math functions to (like cube root or multiply by X, things like that) which then spits out a number that seems random. (the number is altered in your/pokerstars code to give a range needed so for a deck of cards 1-52, and each card having its own numerical value) For most applications this number is random enough to not predict. But a computer wizard in theory could reverse engineer the algorithm and then predict what number it will spit out. And there have been cases of people doing this in vegas.
So now onto pokerstars. Instead of just time they use mouse movements, as well as a laser beam bouncing off a semi-opaque mirror as inputs in their RNG algorithm to determine the next card. This means in order to even attempt to predict the next card you would need to have access to the mirror at pokerstars HQ and access to your opponents computer.
Pokerstars is as close to 'random' as you could possibly get. Lots of suspicious players however forget what 'real/pro' poker players call variance.
some links: https://www.pokerstars.com/poker/room/features/security/
So, that being said I really believe Pokerstars is on top when it comes to safety and integrity. They just have to much to loose (so many brands, charities, big celebrities like Neymar, Nadal, are associated with hem) and think about all the players. They're not for nothing the biggest in the field. And don't forget ... they are not only being monitored by 'the isle of man' but by so many countries where they have to get licences to be able to offer the software. F.ex. Belgium, where I come from, has really strict rules on internet gaming/gambling/selling and PS was 'proved' to be safe.
Goodnight ... no worries, no complots ...