How necessary is a HUD?

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For a recreational player like myself who is only going to play a handful of tournaments a month, how much benefit would I get from using a HUD? I don't feel like I would get enough hands with people to make it worth the investment. Right? Wrong? idk?
 
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You can benefit from it in a single game. How much that benefit is worth to you depends on how you use it and the stakes you play.
 
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I feel like in a tournament you are changing tables a lot, so under 50 or so hands played with a particular player is that enough to make reasonable statement about their game? maybe?
 
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For a recreational player like myself who is only going to play a handful of tournaments a month, how much benefit would I get from using a HUD? I don't feel like I would get enough hands with people to make it worth the investment. Right? Wrong? idk?



Hi. Well, one of the benefits of a HUD is that you can review your own play in a pretty organized manner. You get to see your exacts stats which can help identify some general weaknesses and it can help identify negative specific patterns in your play if you take the time to review specific hands. If you don't see yourself taking much time to review sessions and just like to play it might not be worth it.
 
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Lol, I have never thought of a HUD as being used to evaluate my play only to get info on others. Even though I have seen other players mark hands for review on twitch. I'm an idiot, lol. thanks it really might be worth the investment then.
 
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You can get free 30 day trials from a lot of sites. It is very useful in cash games to make sure you aren’t playing too many pots and also raising enough instead of limping. For MTT it can be useful but as you progress later in the tournament it becomes less useful. Still it’s a great tool and worth the investment!
 
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It all depends on what kind of player you are. If as you say you play only recreationally I do not see much sense in using a HUD. Now if you really take poker seriously, a program like HM2 or PT4 is fundamental both to analyze your game and to collect information from your opponents. Obviously, it depends on how you use it, the program itself does not do anything.
 
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You can benefit from it in a single game. How much that benefit is worth to you depends on how you use it and the stakes you play.
Can someone plz explain more about HUD and how we can apply it in real time tourney. thanks.
 
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It all depends on what kind of player you are. If as you say you play only recreationally I do not see much sense in using a HUD. Now if you really take poker seriously, a program like HM2 or PT4 is fundamental both to analyze your game and to collect information from your opponents. Obviously, it depends on how you use it, the program itself does not do anything.
where can i download these programs from? so far i have been using the odd calculator on BOL and recently started using the cardschat App.. but in order to understand and improve my game i want to start using the HUD feature and analyse the hand history n data better. thanks
 
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The most important thing you have to know, is, that everybody uses a HUD on you and pretends to be a good pokerplayer, because he is the crack, just born to take you out!(I suppose 75% of 50% of the people using a HUD dont even know how to gain worthful information, they put you on tight or loose and go all in anyway with 68s)Now start thinking backwards ( as you should do with every problem):


ALL OF MY OPPONENTS have me in their HUD as a LAG (38% I guess> CC freerolls excepted)
Some of my opponents opened their eyes up to the sky, when I show my ACES, AKs and so on. It took me half a year to spread wrong information in the correct places :)
It is just a part of the game, when you know, how to use your skills, it is always a benefit, if you do not exactly know, what you are doing, it is a benefit for the others. Keep studying!!!
Regarding my plan I will keep distributing "false" information until it is worth to out me!
I am a database administrator and I have all hands I have ever played and I know what to do with it until asking this posqrl in my own language select* from table 'player_name' where table_bet_size>20BB" AND table_winning_hand is <a pair shows you all bluffers ever for example.
But I do not do THAT, I play poker !I understood, what these programs do, and it helped me more than any post, video or practice, to understand the basics of Poker.
But as I mentioned, I am almost a bot. Not much more and I will need oil insteAD OF WATER. sO i DO NOT NEED A hud, lag-SAND tAG- IS TWO ROUNDS ON THE TABLE OR THREE AND YOU KNOW THE SAME WITHOUT hud.
 
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Get it, even if y;ou are not using a lot. If you are playing few tables you can take notes, but HUD will help you also. For multitable it's a must.


For me, playing without a HUD it's like playing blind:)


If you get dealt KTo in the SB and the button raise, a HUD will help you to take a decision. Without a HUD, I will fold this hand and maybe I've lost value.
 
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HUD is very useful in online poker.

HUD is very useful in online poker. With it, you can collect statistics on all players with whom you played at the table. I use Holdem Manager and with the help of HUD many times guessed which cards are in the hands of my opponent. Even if you play a little, just a few tournaments a day, then HUD still gives you an edge over your opponents. In general, Hold'em manager is a very useful program, with the help of which you can analyze your game and keep track of the schedule.
 
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PokerTracker offers a free trial. There are much more to HUD stats than defining if someone is tight or loose so it is a beneficial tool. Definitely not a necessity but you are limiting information available to you without one.
 
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If you play a lot sit n go format you will meet same people all the time,so holdem menager is very helpfull there,its not neccessary but its nice and helpfull to always have some statistics about your opponents and number of blinds they have.Also offtable it provieds nice statistic on your graph,play etc... you can get 30 day free trial i reccomnd you to try gl
 
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Well you know, HUD is like mobile phone.. Some years ago, we didn't even thought about it and having a home phone was enough, but meanwhile everyone has it and it's hard to imagine life without it. It's about the same thing with a HUD, if you don't have one already, you can still play good poker and it's alright, but since you tried it and got used to. It makes your poker life much easier, tracking your progress, letting you tag and replay your hands by one-click. Giving you abilities playing many tables at the same time and still keeping eye on your opponents play, without even watching hands they played. And please don't tell me, like you can play 8 tables and still watch every hand everywhere.. I won't believe ya. :)However HUD doesn't make you a good player and information from a few hands can be even foolish, especially if you have very restricted amount of hands on somebody. If somebody has VPIP 12 after 50 hands, doesn't necessary mean, he is a nit, it just mean he isn't a maniac. But the guy can have pretty wide range but keep receiving 27o, 39o, 24o and so on, can happen. Play another 200 hands with him at other games and maybe his VPIP wind up to 30-35, if you know what i mean.
I can still play without HUD for sure, but i will be missing it, as it made my game more productive i think.
 
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It takes a while for your HUD to work for u. I've had the jivaro HUD for 3months now and now and then I will sit at a table with someone who I have stats on . 50 hands preflop is OK but for post flop u need 100-150 to get a good read. But the awnser to your question is yes they r a good help especially if u r multi tabeling and obviously can't keep a mental note on all players from all 3 tables or however much u play
 
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where can i download these programs from? so far i have been using the odd calculator on BOL and recently started using the cardschat app.. but in order to understand and improve my game i want to start using the HUD feature and analyse the hand history n data better. thanks

Look for Holdem Manager 2 or Poker Tracker 4, they are the best known. Keep in mind that if you decide to use a HUD, you will have to spend a lot of time studying and understanding how each statistic works in order to get a benefit at the tables. If you play in pokerstars, you can also try the free version of Jivaro, it is a HUD much more intuitive than the others, although it only fulfills the function of HUD, the aforementioned programs are much more complete
 
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where can i download these programs from? so far i have been using the odd calculator on BOL and recently started using the cardschat app.. but in order to understand and improve my game i want to start using the HUD feature and analyse the hand history n data better. thanks

If you plan to use HM2 or PT4 in BOL, you would need a card catcher to run a HUD there.
If your looking for another option,you can use DriveHUD which run natural in BOL and ignition.
 
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It's a great tool but i think you can play without it too..some of poker streamers do it like tonkaaa if u know him
 
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Hard to say really.
If you are focused enough and dont multitable those tournaments you might be able to observe some V tendencies on the table you are sitting at. If you are not playing regularly then it is probably not worth the money but If you put in more volume it pays out definitely.
 
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If you want to play 5-10 tables at a time,get one.Otherwise,don`t and enjoy the game of poker as it was intended to be played. At 1 table,with nothing but your brain,wits,experience,and balls.:cool:
 
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It's not, at least how I play. If you 're multitabling 5plus tables I'm sure it comes in handy when you can't sit and watch your opponents like you would be if you only play 1 or 2 tables. I only play 1 or 2 cuz..I just can't handle more than that. I don't like it. I don't like relying on HUD b/c let's face it....there maybe someone else ( a roomie? a spouse?) playing behind that screen name today instead of who those #'s on the HUD usually represent. I like to simulate live action as much as possible....so that's another reason I don't like a HUD.
 
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Why, as the tournament progresses, the HUD becomes less useful ?
 
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I play a lot of micro stakes zone poker on Bovada. I am guessing a HUD is not as beneficial since the tables are anonymous?


I am a losing player but keep studying and playing!
 
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Lol, I have never thought of a HUD as being used to evaluate my play only to get info on others. Even though I have seen other players mark hands for review on twitch. I'm an idiot, lol. thanks it really might be worth the investment then.

Definitely not an idiot, the fact that you are asking questions shows that you are interested in improving your poker "skill", this has put you ahead of a great percentage of people who play poker.


I do believe that using the HUD (database) along with an equity calculator. A reasonably priced HUD with a built-in equity calculator is Drive-HUD. I switched from 1 of the big 2 , I like being a part of their smaller community....(sorry off topic)


Back to the HUD, besides reviewing your own hands, just having the very basic stats of VPIP/PFR for players in the same MTT can give you a quick guess as to how loose or tight a player is. I play more than 1 table at a time and this means that I do not have to watch to see how many pots a villain is playing??


Try one of the free trials and make your own decision. Do not be overwhelmed with 50 STATS you do not need all that info in an MTT
 
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