Do HUD's Work?

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My question is, how much of an advantage does a person using a HUD have?

Are there winning players that do not use a HUD?

This is just a basic start to a more complex question. If you have any thoughts or experiences please feel free to share.

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Following. I'm very curious. Need to know what are the best programs and sites for US players to use them on.
 
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I would compare a hud to someone having a notebook in a live tourney. They really only show you information that you can write down. Just easier that it does it for you so you can concentrate on the game.

Do they work... yes.
Are they needed... no

One thought is that some of the stats you should take with a grain of salt unless you have a sample size that makes the stat mean something.

Example: vpip/voluntary put in pot
The higher the % the more likely they are a fish or calling station... all around bad player.

Someone with a vpip of 100% but they only played one hand just means they played in one hand.

The flip side: 100% vpip and 350 hands. Means they say every flop for the 350 hands you saw them play. Which is a bad player

The examples are extreme. i have not seen someone with a vpip at 100% with decent sample size but you get the picture.

Since any tells you normally would get from a live game don't exist online the only info you have is the stats of the players.

Holdem Manager 2 is what I use. ACR is the only US poker site that I am aware of where the hud is useful (the others are all anonymous sites hence the stats are jacked).
 
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HUD made me make really bad decisions so I stopped using them IMO they are not needed.
 
Nikolay Nakhaev

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My question is, how much of an advantage does a person using a HUD have?

Are there winning players that do not use a HUD?

This is just a basic start to a more complex question. If you have any thoughts or experiences please feel free to share.

Thanks
At the moment I have not mastered the hmm, and I always play without it. And I will say that it is successful. Hmm gives you not only information about others, but also about you. I learn to win without him and achieved success. But I think that it is absolutely necessary in the player's instrument.
 
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Interesting, do you think you were using it correctly?
The person incorrectly applied HM data, as a rule, statistics help. Although I have not mastered it myself well. And I try to use intuition, knowledge of mathematics, the psychology of players' behavior at the table, even at rates, decision-making time, etc.
*I rarely use HM.
 
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HUDs are like cheat sheets, it can help with big decisions.....
 
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Huds can be useful in a lot of situations if you know how to use them correctly.

If you don't know how to read the hud and use it correctly then it's probably just gonna be a distraction and cause you to play even worse.

Before buying a hud you should test it out with a free trial to get used to it and see if you find it useful or just distracting. Multi-tabling is where huds can really come in handy the most in my opinion. If you just like to focus on 1 table and get your own reads on players then a hud might not be for you.
 
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HM will be useful only in specific tournaments and limits, where there are constant same players or in cash games on a certain limit. In freerolls, it is useless.
 
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HUDS are only a usefull tool if you know how to use them. If you have enough of a sample size on someone you can start to exploit there tendencies over the long run. They are only a little useful for playing individual hands as they can be used to help make borderline decisions.
 
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Oh yeah - and they can be useful for analyzing problems in your own game. IE If your own frequencies are out of whack.
 
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If u understand every info the HUD gives you, it definitely improves your game..
If u don't completely understands it, I think it wont give much advantage..
 
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If you understand the information at your disposal and utilize it properly.
 
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As far as I am concerned using a HUD is cheating, plain and simple. You can sit at a table with someone you have never played with before and instantly load his hand history and get stats on him. It's cheating.

Because of HUDs I only play on ignition where all players are anonymous. You cannot download and apply someone's stats when you don't know who they are.

I would never play at a site that allows HUDs.
 
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I do not use,once tried to download holdem Manager,honestly I do not understand.And that's where it stopped...
 
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Haven't seen too many HUD's used at the wsop tables. .So no, I think they are B.S. They may indicate how a player is playing at a given time on a given day but the true winner is the HUD manufacturer.
 
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HUD made me make really bad decisions so I stopped using them IMO they are not needed.

HEHEHE, i took 9 months to give bad information to HUD users :p
For example I am a LAG with 35- 37 VPIP at the beginning of the tournament. i get my chips and depending to the stack I sat out until 8 VPIP.
What does that say about me?
Nothing else, but that I'm pimping your stats to my advantage :)
Go ahead...
 
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Because of HUDs I only play on Ignition where all players are anonymous. You cannot download and apply someone's stats when you don't know who they are.

I would never play at a site that allows HUDs.


There is a school of thought that says this is the future of online poker. But the concern is then it would be too easy for the sites to cheat....right?
 
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I would say using a HUD will help you identify and exploit extreme player types. If you can see that someone is an extreme nit or lag you can easily adjust your play to instantly capitalize on this. If you were sitting at a table full of solid reg players, your HUD would be less helpful for making instant adjustments to exploit your opponents and more helpful in rare spots where the villain's betting and folding tendencies in the long term might help you making a decision.


Many pros play without a HUD, many play with one.
 
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@ Smokewood - HUDs are not cheating in the way you describe, they only show you the stats for the hands you have played against other players - not their entire playing history. Though I have come across software which does do the latter, it is banned on most sites.
 
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I would say using a HUD will help you identify and exploit extreme player types. If you can see that someone is an extreme nit or lag you can easily adjust your play to instantly capitalize on this. If you were sitting at a table full of solid reg players, your HUD would be less helpful for making instant adjustments to exploit your opponents and more helpful in rare spots where the villain's betting and folding tendencies in the long term might help you making a decision.


Many pros play without a HUD, many play with one.
I play without HUD, but I think it will come in handy. Better tell me what positions in it I need the basic for tournaments ????????
 
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I consider HUD really useful! When I played multitables constantly, it was easier to find regular players and fish. When I was to make a difficult decision, playing many tables simultaneously, I could rely on the stats I got, and that really helped. Also, HUD provides you with such an amount of information that I, for instance, can not memorise. Anyway, as guys above said, the advantage of using HUD depends on your needs and how you use it.
 
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I consider HUD really useful! When I played multitables constantly, it was easier to find regular players and fish. When I was to make a difficult decision, playing many tables simultaneously, I could rely on the stats I got, and that really helped. Also, HUD provides you with such an amount of information that I, for instance, can not memorise. Anyway, as guys above said, it depends on your needs and how you use the HUD.
To me so no one said what positions in it I need for tournaments
 
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