Anyone use Sharkscope?

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I use there 5 free searches but it looks a bit pricey to me to buy there services. What do you think? Anyone doing this and it paying off for them?

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im not paying for it, but i do use pokerprolabs which gives you 20 free searches a day instead of 5. so if your not trying to drop money on those sites, thats an alternative. plust i like pro labs info they give you a little more then sharkscope.
 
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I use there 5 free searches but it looks a bit pricey to me to buy there services. What do you think? Anyone doing this and it paying off for them?

Thanks

im not paying for it, but i do use pokerprolabs which gives you 20 free searches a day instead of 5. so if your not trying to drop money on those sites, thats an alternative. plust i like pro labs info they give you a little more then sharkscope.


Well... Those free searches may be "non-prohibited" way of finding player stats umoung other things, The Program It's Self Is A Prohibited Software And Service Due To The Use Of Data Mining....

pokerstars and FullTilt have this clearly stated in Rules For gathering data from player you HAVE NOT personally played the hand with regardless.

Now, If you currently use HEM or PT3 and buy MILLIONS of data mined hands and use it for player info, this is in direct breach of Their rules, but.... BUT HEM (helod'em manager) and PT3 (poker Tracker) are listed under the Non-prohibited programs due to the nature of the software. They dont mine the hands.. they "gather" while you sit and play at real money tables....

Hope this helps. :eating:
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Well... Those free searches may be "non-prohibited" way of finding player stats umoung other things, The Program It's Self Is A Prohibited Software And Service Due To The Use Of Data Mining....

PokerStars and FullTilt have this clearly stated in Rules For gathering data from player you HAVE NOT personally played the hand with regardless.

Now, If you currently use HEM or PT3 and buy MILLIONS of data mined hands and use it for player info, this is in direct breach of Their rules, but.... BUT HEM (helod'em manager) and PT3 (poker Tracker) are listed under the Non-prohibited programs due to the nature of the software. They dont mine the hands.. they "gather" while you sit and play at real money tables....

Hope this helps. :eating:
d^.^b

Didn't know that, I used SharkScope once to search about random people I met in different forums but I'll be sure not to visit their site anymore.
 
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Didn't know that, I used SharkScope once to search about random people I met in different forums but I'll be sure not to visit their site anymore.


Dude use the site.. use them to see the player statistics... Just the data mining software on your comp. is banned.
 
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try searching for HEM or PT3... they are posted all over this site aswell...

They are good.
 
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If you play sng's and don't use it - just know that your good opponents are using it and have a huge edge on you. I would go so far as to say if you want to play $5.50's or higher and don't intend to use it - you might want to try playing something else instead. :p
 
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yes i use it , and take notes on the regular players one stake higher then i'm playing so when i move up i'll know who the good player are. losing players just get color coded
p.s i don't run it when i'm playing, i do it on my study days, 2 times a week
 
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If any item listed on the Prohibited list of programs or services is installed on your comp. regardless if you use it during game play or not is still Prohibited.... I'm just stating what they are saying... I wouldnt mind poker-edge or some other nice mass data mine of info with past hands that you can see how they played... Maybe if you could hide the program so the poker websites cant check to see if you are using a prohibited type of program or have it installed. They say they have the access to do that.
 
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If you play sng's and don't use it - just know that your good opponents are using it and have a huge edge on you. I would go so far as to say if you want to play $5.50's or higher and don't intend to use it - you might want to try playing something else instead. :p

I don't play sngos, but I'm curious where this huge edge is...table selection? Can you table select effectively at stts where they fill up fast and you need to open several at once?

Seems you would generally know pretty soon from your HUD (and database) who the regs and the donators are, and the HUD is going to give you alot more specific helpful information than knowing someone is a breakeven player.

Is it about knowing who the really bad unknowns are earlier in the game so you can adjust the hands you'll be happy to risk chips with against them?

...or is it from more than the search feature, I don't know what full sharkscope subscription includes.
 
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I use Top Shark Pro which I believe is basically the same thing only I can get more searches. I'd assume that the reason to have it is to get an idea of whom you are playing against...no different than using other tracking software...just want an idea of who the sharks and the fishes are. Debi can speak for herself but that's my .02
 
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I don't play sngos, but I'm curious where this huge edge is...table selection? Can you table select effectively at stts where they fill up fast and you need to open several at once?

Seems you would generally know pretty soon from your HUD (and database) who the regs and the donators are, and the HUD is going to give you alot more specific helpful information than knowing someone is a breakeven player.

Is it about knowing who the really bad unknowns are earlier in the game so you can adjust the hands you'll be happy to get all in with?

...or is it from more than the search feature, I don't know what full sharkscope subscription includes.

Yes - it is table selection. Do you really want to play in sng's with 3 or 4 regs who crush them? It becomes increasingly more important as you move up in stakes.

At the $5.50 level it helps but you don't run into as many issues as you do at higher levels. I always look at the tables before I register to see who is already in. If there are 2-3 regs on the the table I will skip it.

I use the hud too of course and make notes from it. Your edge in sng's is so small you can't afford to lose simple things like this that you can easily watch for.

i color code them so it is easy to see who to avoid without having to be able to read my notes before registering - which you can do at FT but not at PS.
 
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Must be something about being drafted to your team Debi....we're starting to see things similarly :eek:
 
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If you play sng's and don't use it - just know that your good opponents are using it and have a huge edge on you. I would go so far as to say if you want to play $5.50's or higher and don't intend to use it - you might want to try playing something else instead. :p

I didnt really use it when I played 11$ SnG's. Probably should have, just as I probably should use HEM or PT3.

But my point is you dont need to.
 
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I use it more for finding the tournament results for our CC freerolls than a tool to use at the table while playing. So five free searches a day is ample, for me. No need to pay for a membership for any more.
 
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I use OPR, PTR, & rarely sharkscope (free service), but I do have to say that I use it for myself & it has improved my game. I use PT3 for the peeps I play against, which has also made me more aware of my game play (although trail service is running out). - Just Saying -
* & yes data mining is prohibited, that is why PT3 doesn't allow it *
 
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I'd love to use sharkscope and PTR but find far to expensive to just to check up on other players espically when I'm currently just a break even player at best. If I was to turn into a +profit I would probs go for it.
 
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If any item listed on the Prohibited list of programs or services is installed on your comp. regardless if you use it during game play or not is still Prohibited.... I'm just stating what they are saying... I wouldnt mind poker-edge or some other nice mass data mine of info with past hands that you can see how they played... Maybe if you could hide the program so the poker websites cant check to see if you are using a prohibited type of program or have it installed. They say they have the access to do that.

You're getting your info. confused.
In prior post you're suggesting that prolabs software is data-mining... lol. Do you even know what it is? Incidentally, it's allowed on both FT & Stars.
Please try to get your facts straight.
Also, comparing PokerEdge to Sharkscope?? Completely different.
 
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You're getting your info. confused.
In prior post you're suggesting that prolabs software is data-mining... lol. Do you even know what it is? Incidentally, it's allowed on both FT & Stars.
Please try to get your facts straight.
Also, comparing PokerEdge to Sharkscope?? Completely different.

If i directed it to a single program i didnt mean to... I was just just saying that hands you dont play that are stored on your comp blah blah blah They dont like... I am new to these programs... I am not a great player and i dont even really care that ppl use this junk as i am trying to aswell.


I just want to make sure I, myself don't use the wrong ones to risk my bankroll and account over. But if they are very laxed on the issue then I suppose you just dont mention it on the tables. :bootyshak
 
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Hmm I just realized I am pretty goofy.. Disregard all that dumb crap I have been saying ... Thnx :D
 
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You're getting your info. confused.
In prior post you're suggesting that prolabs software is data-mining... lol. Do you even know what it is? Incidentally, it's allowed on both FT & Stars.
Please try to get your facts straight.
Also, comparing PokerEdge to Sharkscope?? Completely different.

First, I want to say sorry if this thread was 1 month old without reply & I bump it.

What I get from your post, is that mean while I'm playing at FTP or PS and my browser open pokerprolabs okay? Not break any rules?

What if I play let say SnG and search other player's name on my table on pokerprolabs while I'm still active at table, is it okay?

Thank you before, because I already try to search about this on CC but I found all answers are various, just want to make sure if I get the right point.

Best regards
onizuka :)
 
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@ nc_royals: The word you're looking for is their. Not there. (Sorry to be "that guy")

Sites like Sharkscope, PTR, and Pokerlabs are prohibited by FT and PS's TOS while you are using the gaming softare. Checking results and stats while not running the poker client is ok.

PT3 and HEM are not technically classified as datamining software as they collect hands that you are involved in (or dealt into), which is different than buying HH's.

Now some poeple do bend the rules and import purchased histories, but to the best of my knowledge you cannot use outside HH's in PT3. I don't know about HEM as I have never used that program.
 
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