The wrong play because of chips or not?

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Ok in tournament recently it was a $20 MTT had around 50 entrants, I do belive. I was chip leader on final table with about 45k 2nd had about 35k I want to say it was 6 or 7 handed pretty sure 6 anyway I get q 10 unsuited in BB. The action folds around to sb who is sitting around with a little over 11k(short stack) now it is 6 handed so playing with these guys for awhile, reason guy was short stack was because of super tight play. Sersiouly to this point think he might of played 1 other hand at table. Want to note also he had previously folded to my bb when in same position before. He pushes and honestly I thought about calling for some time but figured at best Im sitting at a flip so folded. I folded and he showed 88s. I was wondering if you guys would have played it different. Should I have instantly called because of stack size and position? I mean generally speaking sb will push with anything when table folds to them and they only have 10bbs left.
 
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Ok in tournament recently it was a $20 MTT had around 50 entrants, I do belive. I was chip leader on final table with about 45k 2nd had about 35k I want to say it was 6 or 7 handed pretty sure 6 anyway I get q 10 unsuited in BB. The action folds around to sb who is sitting around with a little over 11k(short stack) now it is 6 handed so playing with these guys for awhile, reason guy was short stack was because of super tight play. Sersiouly to this point think he might of played 1 other hand at table. Want to note also he had previously folded to my bb when in same position before. He pushes and honestly I thought about calling for some time but figured at best Im sitting at a flip so folded. I folded and he showed 88s. I was wondering if you guys would have played it different. Should I have instantly called because of stack size and position? I mean generally speaking sb will push with anything when table folds to them and they only have 10bbs left.

Fold,no need to risk your stack with a marginal hand, and position doesnt matter as there will be no betting action on flop,(Ye would be both all in).

How did ya get on,bink it.?
 
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What the blinds were at this point would of been a deciding factor for me as well. If he's pushing with 5 or so blinds he could have a very wide range regardless of his previous tightness.
 
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Dunno if its your tag line or if your asking how I did in tourney but to answer your question if it is one The messiah "how did you get on, bink it?" I finished 4th was 2nd in chips me and #1 relativley identical stacks had kks I trippled BB he was sb he pushed I quickly called he had AQ unsuited and hit the A on the river. I dunno if you guys noticed this but no matter how hard I yell at my computer 'NO A!" it doesn't seem to work maybe its because Im using an hp ;P
 
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Shorty taking a chance on the final table against the big stack. Absolutely standard on his part, and also on your part.

You got there by savvy play and good cards when you needed them. Has anything changed in this scenario?

Didn't think so.:cool:
 
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Q 10o as the chip leader vs a tightfisted SB shove? Marginal at best.
KK race vs AQ for the win? A much better call. Looks like you played both right.
 
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Except for the situation noted where he's short enough (and knows enough) to shove a very wide range, it's not a very difficult fold. His range is probably something like most pairs, Ax and two face cards. QTo isn't very good against such a range. While you're only a small dog fairly often, there are also quite a few holdings where you're dominated and basically drawing to 3 outs. And you're almost never ahead.
 
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Don't call just because of position and chips. Keep the status quo, keep the chip lead, and keep grinding it out.
 
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Shorty taking a chance on the final table against the big stack. Absolutely standard on his part, and also on your part.
How do you come to this ^ analysis?
OP had stated that the player on SS had gotten short because of bein' super tight. Typically SB should be shoving here wide (but we have evidence to the contrary). SB (w 10bb's) shoves 88. < how is this "shorty taking a chance"??:confused:
 
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Id say he had a pretty wide range. You definitely had the chips to spare. Hes pushing a lot of hands that would put you at 40% at worst. I would of called.
 
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Dependant on how deep you were i dont think you should be calling really in this spot, it is too marginal with Q10 on a final table. If you have like 50 BB's + then calling with Q10o isnt as bad in this spot, but as this was a small mtt the stacks probably weren't deep enough for you to make this call against a tight player who could easily have you dominated with AQ,KQ,A10, K10 etc
 
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How do you come to this ^ analysis?
OP had stated that the player on SS had gotten short because of bein' super tight. Typically SB should be shoving here wide (but we have evidence to the contrary). SB (w 10bb's) shoves 88. < how is this "shorty taking a chance"??:confused:

Is this in some way questioning my synopsis (not analysis) of what did happen, and should have happened?
 
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fold
if he is a tight player theres no way you're gonna be ahead (most likely)
keep the status quo, you could play wicked tight with a chip lead with 6 people and wrap up 3rd place easy. theres no reason to take a huge hit to your chip stack, especially with QT
 
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good fold man
I recently made a mistake at 180 sit go on stars
final table , average stack , utg is short stack with 10bb and raises 5xbb
now his stats read something like this vp$ip 8 pfr 8 agr 45 so this guy is a nit and just invests half of his stack utg . Doesnt take a genius to asign a range of AA KK QQ AK right? so are you calling this with 88 ? you got him well covered
you got a decent hand , but so what when you know your beat .
Anyway i put him on above range but still push all in just incase and loose 30%
of my stack with 88 . Busting out in 4th scratching my head about the stupid call .
in your case villain shoves 10bb you know your beat and fold, bravo made 2nd because of a good fold
 
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If you had him covered by more than just 24k I'd say yes. But it's a moderate hand and if you lose the hand you're even with him now. Good fold.
 
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