Would you lay it down?

I'm under the gun with 1275 chips and the blinds are 5/10.

I raise it to 45 with AA.

UTG+1 calls (1100 chips) so does the SB (922 chips) and BB (844) chips.

Flop comes Kc8d3d.

I bet 275 first and then this happens.

UTG+1 goes all in. SB and BB both fold.

Can you fold here with top pair?

I wouldn't lay it down, I am sure one of them prob has AK and is thinking tptk.
I will put the other on the flush draw.
I also might be headed for the rail with KK hitting trips, lol

If you had the ace of dmds stacking off is fine, if not I would fold.

Also your raise pre is a little big. I'd stick between 3-3.5x, you dont want to have to raise all of your hands to 4.5x. It also sounds like there was around 145 in the pot and you decided to lead out for a huge 275 chip overbet. With our w/o the ace of dmds a 100 to pot sized bet is much better, I'd bet around 100 withou the ace of dmds and closer to pot with. Bet/call with ace of dmds like I said previously, and bet/fold without which will leave you with plenty of chips (110ish bb at current level).

This really needs more background. Is it a 9-player SnG? Is it an MTT? Is it a freeroll? What is the buy-in?

As written - I call and hope he doesn't have KK. You've already pretty much committed yourself with the huge post-flop bet trying to see if someone would call you... well here you are... again, if this is a micro/freeroll, did you think you could push off 3 post-flop players with that bet?

Call no lay down! Trips or 2 pair I figure doesn't push here! So I Call.

arahel_jazz said:

This really needs more background. Is it a 9-player SnG? Is it an MTT? Is it a freeroll? What is the buy-in?

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i agree this info is needed.

So what happened?
Did you call or fold?
Did you win?

Oh, I'd be calling that. With fingers crossed, hoping he doesn't have a set. Sometimes he will. Sometimes he'll have AK diamonds and I'll have to hope he doesn't catch his flush.

This is the kind of situation that often gets me busted. And often doubles me up. What fun!

OK, a day may come when I can fold the AA here...but I doubt it will be any time soon. I'll pay off a lot of people before that day comes.

Not enough info on Villian to be honest with you.

VPIP/PFR%/AgF

IDK UTG+1 played that with little to no strength. Most likely pocket 3's or 8's, the shove on the flop suggests this to me. Huge over bet to protect his hand, definitely doesn't seem like Ad Kd, would have re-raised PF most likely.

I don't see a shove here unless he's holding Kxo. Possibly K8o K3o.

Without stats, this is really too early on in the tourney to put him on a range unless you can tell us what his table image is.

kevrewis said:

I'm under the gun with 1275 chips and the blinds are 5/10.

I raise it to 45 with AA.

UTG+1 calls (1100 chips) so does the SB (922 chips) and BB (844) chips.

Flop comes Kc8d3d.

I bet 275 first and then this happens.

UTG+1 goes all in. SB and BB both fold.

Can you fold here with top pair?

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I wish I knew a bit more about the situation. I think there is a Sticky that explains what to put in a post. Just a suggestion.

I'm assuming you don't have the Ac (kinda important).

With the stacks so low and with no information, he probably thinks TP is good. B/C the level is so low, I guess I'd call. But I can understand if you fold.

chapeltuno said:

Call no lay down! Trips or 2 pair I figure doesn't push here! So I Call.

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That's true. If you had a set or 2-pair you're probably not going to re-raise all in, unless you're a bad player, OR scared that the original raiser has AdXd, in which case you'll want to protect your hand from being drawn on.

I'd call here. If I read the OP right, you covered the raiser by 15BB or so and while being the short-stack at a table is never good, neither is folding the best hand when you're in position to stack your opponent with the hidden strength of your hand.

It would also be very likely that your opponent would call you with K8 or K3 or 83. So if he has 2 daimonds you're a head. And no reraise preflop makes me think not KK. Maybe 88 or 33, but more likely AK, KQ, KJ, 89, 9T, QQ-99. or a flush draw he didn't want to have to hit.

Or the dumbest bluff ever. Ussually when my opponent raises pre-flop and a harmless looking board comes out and he bets into it, I think he missed, and I consider raising him. The problem is I don't always have the guts to call a big re-raise, so I can't stick to my guns if all I'm trying to do is make him fold if he missed, and I missed.

I would clearly not lay this down. I have AA...top pair...and there is no way I'm laying down this hand. I'm putting my opponent and trying to catch a flush.

hurricanebezy said:

I would lay this down. I only have AA...top pair (but only a pair)...and there is no way I'm calling with this hand. I'm putting my fishy opponent on 2 pair or better.

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FYP

this smells of freeroll to me.....and i bet dude was shoving on a draw...pssibly top pair ....your almost always priced to call in that situation but if you really didnt want to put your tourney on the line youd fold...aces are just a pair...if he did have king its likely he had king queen or king jack and has the odds to catch two pair...or if he is 4 flushing it he has a good chance to catch another diomond ...but to answer your ? honestly im insta calling specially in a freeroll

Seems like the start of a tournament, so I would call, and find another game if I lose. I can lose but that is part of the game.

The question you have to ask yourself can he put you on AA with your raise, if not he can shove with any K any pair above 8 and any D draw and maybe even a straight draw, also he can be on a bluff, have 2 pairs which you have to get lucky against.

IF you have a good read on him and know hes a Rock then you can fold.

I can't see how I wouldven hermation gi lay it down. Even with the limited information here, I'm calling.

Just based on the info in the OP...UTG+1 is protecting his/her hand from a flush draw...guessing UTG+1 has K.K or 8.8 or 3.3 & flopped a set...fold & use remaining chips to fight another battle.

How did the hand play out?

PooffyFooffy said:

I wouldn't lay it down, I am sure one of them prob has AK and is thinking tptk.
I will put the other on the flush draw.
I also might be headed for the rail with KK hitting trips, lol

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+1.

Alot of idiots will stack off with TPTK w/ AK. Easy to trap people when u have a set or overpair bcos they jus cant fold there AK (we've all been there).

It's a easy call hopin he doesnt have KK. If he has a flush draw then i'd make a note on the guy sayin he stacks off easy.

How much was the buyin for the sng?

push and hope hes not hit trips or 2 pair. you got top pair in a micro or freeroll. if u lose , take the next game and move on. if you win the hand your on a high..................joker131

Jokus82 said:

How much was the buyin for the sng?

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Why would this matter?

I think this is a call here, especially without reads on the villain. Most of the time you're looking at TPMK like KJ, K10, etc or a flush draw, maybe nut flush if you're not holding the Ad or worse is TP with a flush draw, giving them a ton of outs if they're called.

A set here is possible as well. The flop is 180 and you over bet by a lot with 275, so you're practically telling everyone at the table to you have a K or better. Knowing you've put that much in, a set might shove here to get max value if they've read you right. And if UTG+1 does have a set, its a good shove to protect against any flush draws.

I don't see 2 pair a lot here from UTG+1. Unless they're a really bad player. Not impossible, but I dont see it a lot. K8, K3, 83 aren't calling a lot of PFRs.

So, without any reads, you're either holding the best hand vs TPMK, or at worse a TP with FD, or just a flush draw so you're still good. Or you're facing a set and drawing to 2 outs or maybe a runner runner flush if you have the Ad. While sets are not impossible, I think you beat far more hands than you lose to, so I would make this call and hope for the best.

I got to go with more info as well. there is way more to that call/fold than the hands and stack sizes.

I'm pretty sure this is a call..AK-KQ-KJ is the most likely hand he has. And he probably though he was good..and who can blame him? =)

kevrewis said:

I'm under the gun with 1275 chips and the blinds are 5/10.

I raise it to 45 with AA.

UTG+1 calls (1100 chips) so does the SB (922 chips) and BB (844) chips.

Flop comes Kc8d3d.

I bet 275 first and then this happens.

UTG+1 goes all in. SB and BB both fold.

Can you fold here with top pair?

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Easy laydown, your at one like the first blind level, no need to be getting it all in, even with an overpair.