Ragequit
Rock Star
Silver Level
Hi guys, this hand took place during a $3.50 Sit & Go Tournament on pokerstars.
Context:
The table has been playing quite tight and I face an open from a Nit who plays a range of {AKs QQ+ maybe TT/JJ+} from this position, I elect to just flat with my offsuit Ace-King. The passive playing blinds call behind me. I decide to donk my flopped top two pair to thin the field and define the hand. The passive small blind calls and the NIT and BB both fold. The turn is the worst card imaginable giving any ragged Jack a straight and a redraw to a river flush. I check to get further information and the small blind makes it 2/3rds pot to go.
My Thought Process:
At this point I am regretting my flop donk bet. While the logic was sound in thinning the field it also bloated the pot to a difficult size (in terms of SPR). I go into the tank and start thinking about ranges.
The hands i'm considering he might have are {AA, KK, AK, AQ, QQ, JJ, JT, AT, TT, J7-AJ, 77-99, KT and maybe K9, Q8-QJ) - 189 combos given the board and my hole cards.
To start the narrowing process I immediately rule out {AA,KK,AK, QQ and JJ} as this type of player would have most likely 3Bet these hands preflop. This reduces the combos to 130 and the equity of my hand enjoys about 54% against this range on this board.
Now obviously I had none of this info during the hand but I knew it was more likely to be a borderline decision. The reason was, I could account for 2 of the Aces, two of the Kings and at least one of the Tens and Queens. I decided that this was grounds enough to rule out half of the Ace and King hands (lower range), and the pairs 77-99 (As I didn't think those mid level pocket pairs would feel comfortable enough to continue on this flop. This reduced Villain's possible range to {Q8-QJ, TT, AQ, KQ, KJs, AJs-AKs} a total of 70 combos.
I felt that most of what was leftover that he could reasonably have had me crushed. When I ran my final guess on his betting range through Mr. Flopzilla I appeared to have about 45% equity in this situation. I knew that the numbers were close.
Now please correct me if I'm wrong here:
The pot on the turn was $1000 and Villain bet $661. So I needed: [661 / (661 + 661 + 1000)] = 661 / 2322 = 27% equity to make this call. I had 45% approximately so it seems that I made a mistake by folding and should have called. But this wasn't a cash game. I was thinking about ICM and saving chips for late stages. And so I decided to make a very painful fold.
What would you have done if you were me? Would you have made this call? How would you have played this hand differently.
Thank you,
Hand Details
Hand Information
PokerStars No Limit, 30 BB (8 handed).
Hand History converter courtesy of pokerhandreplays.com
Table Information
Seat: 1 andreandr ($1485) Dealer
Seat: 2 steabb73 ($1273) Small Blind
Seat: 3 jusart ($1580) Big Blind
Seat: 4 marcosandujo ($2799)
Seat: 5 xpm-h096 ($2007)
Seat: 6 nec_korolev ($1413)
Seat: 8 hero ($1535)
Seat: 9 javor_ka81 ($1408)
Seat 1andreandr Ante: 4
Seat 2steabb73 Ante: 4
Seat 3jusart Ante: 4
Seat 4marcosandujo Ante: 4
Seat 5xpm-h096 Ante: 4
Seat 6nec_korolev Ante: 4
Seat 8hero Ante: 4
Seat 9javor_ka81 Ante: 4
Dealt to hero
Preflop (Pot:77)
marcosandujo FOLD
xpm-h096 FOLD
nec_korolev RAISE $90
hero CALL $90
javor_ka81 CALL $90
andreandr FOLD
steabb73 CALL $75
jusart CALL $60
Flop(Pot: $490)
steabb73 CHECK
jusart CHECK
nec_korolev CHECK
hero BET $255
javor_ka81 CALL $255
steabb73 FOLD
jusart FOLD
nec_korolev FOLD
Turn(Pot: $1000)
hero CHECK
javor_ka81 BET $661
hero FOLD
javor_ka81 RETURN $661
Showdown:
javor_ka81 MUCKS
javor_ka81 wins the pot: $1661
Context:
The table has been playing quite tight and I face an open from a Nit who plays a range of {AKs QQ+ maybe TT/JJ+} from this position, I elect to just flat with my offsuit Ace-King. The passive playing blinds call behind me. I decide to donk my flopped top two pair to thin the field and define the hand. The passive small blind calls and the NIT and BB both fold. The turn is the worst card imaginable giving any ragged Jack a straight and a redraw to a river flush. I check to get further information and the small blind makes it 2/3rds pot to go.
My Thought Process:
At this point I am regretting my flop donk bet. While the logic was sound in thinning the field it also bloated the pot to a difficult size (in terms of SPR). I go into the tank and start thinking about ranges.
The hands i'm considering he might have are {AA, KK, AK, AQ, QQ, JJ, JT, AT, TT, J7-AJ, 77-99, KT and maybe K9, Q8-QJ) - 189 combos given the board and my hole cards.
To start the narrowing process I immediately rule out {AA,KK,AK, QQ and JJ} as this type of player would have most likely 3Bet these hands preflop. This reduces the combos to 130 and the equity of my hand enjoys about 54% against this range on this board.
Now obviously I had none of this info during the hand but I knew it was more likely to be a borderline decision. The reason was, I could account for 2 of the Aces, two of the Kings and at least one of the Tens and Queens. I decided that this was grounds enough to rule out half of the Ace and King hands (lower range), and the pairs 77-99 (As I didn't think those mid level pocket pairs would feel comfortable enough to continue on this flop. This reduced Villain's possible range to {Q8-QJ, TT, AQ, KQ, KJs, AJs-AKs} a total of 70 combos.
I felt that most of what was leftover that he could reasonably have had me crushed. When I ran my final guess on his betting range through Mr. Flopzilla I appeared to have about 45% equity in this situation. I knew that the numbers were close.
Now please correct me if I'm wrong here:
The pot on the turn was $1000 and Villain bet $661. So I needed: [661 / (661 + 661 + 1000)] = 661 / 2322 = 27% equity to make this call. I had 45% approximately so it seems that I made a mistake by folding and should have called. But this wasn't a cash game. I was thinking about ICM and saving chips for late stages. And so I decided to make a very painful fold.
What would you have done if you were me? Would you have made this call? How would you have played this hand differently.
Thank you,
Hand Details
Hand Information
PokerStars No Limit, 30 BB (8 handed).
Hand History converter courtesy of pokerhandreplays.com
Table Information
Seat: 1 andreandr ($1485) Dealer
Seat: 2 steabb73 ($1273) Small Blind
Seat: 3 jusart ($1580) Big Blind
Seat: 4 marcosandujo ($2799)
Seat: 5 xpm-h096 ($2007)
Seat: 6 nec_korolev ($1413)
Seat: 8 hero ($1535)
Seat: 9 javor_ka81 ($1408)
Seat 1andreandr Ante: 4
Seat 2steabb73 Ante: 4
Seat 3jusart Ante: 4
Seat 4marcosandujo Ante: 4
Seat 5xpm-h096 Ante: 4
Seat 6nec_korolev Ante: 4
Seat 8hero Ante: 4
Seat 9javor_ka81 Ante: 4
Dealt to hero
Preflop (Pot:77)
marcosandujo FOLD
xpm-h096 FOLD
nec_korolev RAISE $90
hero CALL $90
javor_ka81 CALL $90
andreandr FOLD
steabb73 CALL $75
jusart CALL $60
Flop(Pot: $490)
steabb73 CHECK
jusart CHECK
nec_korolev CHECK
hero BET $255
javor_ka81 CALL $255
steabb73 FOLD
jusart FOLD
nec_korolev FOLD
Turn(Pot: $1000)
hero CHECK
javor_ka81 BET $661
hero FOLD
javor_ka81 RETURN $661
Showdown:
javor_ka81 MUCKS
javor_ka81 wins the pot: $1661