worth drawing here?

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I was playing a freeroll (beginning of the tournament, like the fourth hand or someting) and I had 22 in early position. I call, 6 limpers behind
Flop comes A34 rainbow.
Somebody min bets (30 into a pot of 180) I decide to peel one off for a chance at a set or a 5 for a straight. I think this is the correct play here (thoughts?)
the turn comes an 8, essentially a blank. Another min bet of 30 is made, this time into a pot of 330.
My question is, is it worth calling another min raise of 30 to chase my set or a straight?

I think I provided enough info.
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Strictly on a pot-odds basis both calls are correct. You are being offered 7:1 on the post flop call and only require 2.6:1 for it to be correct and post turn you are gettng 11:1 and only need it to be 5.6:1.

However, if it were me, I would have folded after the flop. Just call me SuperNit :) . Why? Well:
1. It is a freeroll and in the early stages of freerolls I try to avoid multiway pots, particularly ones where the pot gets quite large.
2. It is a freeroll and in freerolls people call, even quite large raises, with total rubbish. With 5 players the odds are pretty good that even if you hit your set or str8 you will be beaten by a higher set or higher str8.

Still, horses for courses. It depends on your playing style. I am fairly sure that someone will post to say that raising, rather than calling, would be the way to go. That certainly could reduce the player count although, again, in the early stages of a freeroll that's not guaranteed.
 
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It is worth calling as Henry mentions above.

The problem is your outs are not clean. You hitting your set would mean 56 is now the nuts or a lone 5.

And if a 5 hits you are in danger of someone having a better straight.

I might be calling mini bets here but this is not the best of spots.

Conclusion: Not worth drawing and especially not worth calling big bets.
 
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you did good in both calls.. you played it correcly until the river... then if he makes a big raise, you decide there what you'll do... but in those spots you were doing the right thing, but maybe you could've reraised to spice it up and put the opponent on the spot... but since it is a freeroll, it doesnt matter that much as the villains almost never folding anything
 
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The problem is your outs are not clean. You hitting your set would mean 56 is now the nuts or a lone 5.

And if a 5 hits you are in danger of someone having a better straight.
If a 2 hits on the turn, you could also be drawing almost dead, with one out vs a higher set.
 
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In my previous contribution to this debate I omitted to mention that as you were in an early position it is a bad idea to even enter the hand with 2,2.

You are oop for the remainder of the hand and at a distinct disadvantage.
 
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I'd just fold on the flop. None of my "outs" make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside if they hit.
You do have the pot odds to chase, that's not the problem, the problem is if you HIT you now have a very difficult hand to play out of position.

With 22 in a multiway pot, I either flop a set or I'm gone.
 
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I would never play 22, it can only beat a bluff. However, having made the original call,....That was an inside str8. You should have folded on the flop
 
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