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how many tables do you usually multi-table and what sort of numbers do you stick too.
do you find profit fluctuates based to how many are in the field or is it pretty consistant either way.

I'm also keen to find out a bit about strategy - do yo tend to stick to the same strategy for every game to keep your decisions solid... Or do you adjust per table and try to exploit players (harder to do whilest multi tabling ofcourse)
also could you still be a winning player without any software what so ever etc

and finally do you profit in both turbo sit n go's and standard sit n go's or like (me personally) have more luck multi tabling standard blind tables.

for me with the cards I can crush turbo's but when I dont have the cards you have to take a toss around the bubble in order to win and it seems to be impossible to have the same results as when playing 10 minute blinds
 
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At single table sit and go I like to play it tight at first and you can usually get a sense for how the others play pretty quick and see what cards they play. From there you can try to isolate the weaker one's to build your stack and try to avoid the better ones until later. Unless of course you can knock them off early with the nuts :)
 
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It varies on the SnG I'm playing. If they are MTT SnG's, I play best when I'm between 6-12 tables.

Of course the bigger the SnG's are player wise, the higher the variance but in general if you're a winning player your profit margins (roi%) comes from the bigger size MTT SnG's but of course if we're talking about hourly rate you might profit more from hyper turbo HU's SnG's with a much smaller ROI% purely because of the volume you can get in.

I adjust to player types. Beginning early stages though; generally I play much tighter but the most profit comes from middle/late stages. So; I'll target the fish/tight players that are still in the game.

Yes; I believe I would be profitable without software, I haven't played without for a long while but you don't need software to make correct EV plays in SnG's if you're playing them correctly. The software in general for me only helps when multi tabling just to pin point the bad nitty players and the loose bad players + regs and makes decisions which are classed as close, much easier just based on the player type opening the action.

standard tournament types are much better ROI% but that's obvious, because the blinds are longer so variance is less but turbos/hyper turbos are much more profitable for me because you get tons of bad players that make many bad errors when stack sizes become smaller and you can just take advantage of it and of course get in a lot more volume.


You shouldn't be hoping to "get cards" for turbos. This is a major leak, if you're thinking and playing like this just based on your hand value in SnG's, you're going to struggle to be profitable. Sure you might break even or slightly profit from the bad players but your winrate is still going to be tiny. There also shouldn't be many post flop plays you should be playing in SnG's in general either. You're likely playing too loose early stages and way to tight in the middle/late games and that brings me back to what I just said about the big errors people make late games because they can't adjust to the effective stack sizes at the table or don't know how to correctly play their stack size when antes are in play. Your cards shouldn't matter in general if you have a good late game. For example; we can happily open shove bvb vs a nit 100% of hands even 27o when antes and stack sizes are getting smaller because we know he folds so often that it's always going to be +EV unless he adjusts to us which isn'y likely at micros.
 
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Great input on the turbo sit n go's

I think in general I prefer turbo sit n go's which is to my disadvantage because my ROI is higher with standard as I can confidently raise more hands because I am happy to play post flop 90% of the time and come away with either the pot or a good fold.

I got alot of respect for the all in/shuv strategy you use I have tried applying it but for whatever reasons I suffered alot of bad variance and alot of calls and actually ended up losing more than I do playing a raise or 3-bet preflop
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I know overall it will probably work for me with a deep bankroll.
its something to think about in turbo sit n go's for the future anyway
 
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I play as tight as possible and limp in as much as I can unless I get a decent starting hand and I only raise 2-3x the big blind if I don't want someone to push pre-flop.

I stick to 2-3 windows in the $7-$15 buy in range.
 
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I prefer single table s-n-g's, but play 3 table max. For one thing, waiting on more than a 27 player s-n-g seems to take forever, and the pay outs aren't much more in a larger field. Swings and variance are compounded in the larger tabled s-n-g's, so one might as well play a regular turny in comparison. In a 27 player or single table s-n-g, you will get the feel for how the players act, how they play, etc. You can also determine if you should float to the money,or be more aggressive. Super turbos demand a little more aggression, and wider hand ranges due to the short time you have to make your moves, but you can also watch and see how fast the field shrinks because of donk players or bad beats, and then dance with a premium hand when it comes along.
 
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I don't have a positive rate of return but I normally play double or nothings. I do OK in that format. I just need to remember to slow down when I get to a nice amount in chips. The games always end with a stubborn short stack who refuses to lose into they run out of chips. (sometimes that's me.)

I play normal and turbo sit and goes but the turbo games do progress a bit faster than I am used to. I would need to adjust somewhat. As for the amount of tables I tried playing 3 or 4 tables in the past but I don't think it works out for me currently so I probably would just stick to 2 or one table.

Carbon poker has a sit and go leader board and man! I cant believe how many games people play. Its been two days and people have played over 60 small stakes games! I put in bigger volumes some days myself though. Playing sit and goes seem like my only hope to make any money in poker because I am not a good ring game player.
 
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I usually play low stakes STT. I play tight early on and usually raise 2.5-3x the big blind trying to play small ball, if I fall close to 10 big blinds I start to look for a quality hand to double up or go home.
 
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