This is a discussion on When to start racing within the online poker forums, in the Tournament Poker section; Hey guys. Ive been practicing more of my poker and trying to get better at using suited connectors (this is probably my biggest weak since
Hey guys. Ive been practicing more of my poker and trying to get better at using suited connectors (this is probably my biggest weak since I never like playing suited connectors). Since I play tight, the only suited connectors I really think of venturing out with are 89s+
I was wondering though when at what M or what blinds do people start shoving with SCs? At what point is it any two cards? Harringtons M seems to imply shoving with any two is correct probably at M<5 (red zone) while maybe suited connectors should be at orange? The reason why I dont understand the value of SCs are because it doesnt seem like you are getting your chips worth. By shoving, you only get twice your stack if called which is a 2:1. However, flopping a straight draw or flush draw is 1 in 8 so you need better than 1:8 for this to be profitable. Against a tight player (10% hands called), you are a 2:1 dog. Could someone explain to me how to play SCs properly and at what M I should start risking with them.
If you expect to get called by big aces and big pairs, then its great to push with suited connectors.
You have great fold equity and most of the time you will have more than 40% chance of winning in a showdown.
If you will get called by most anything then its better to pick a weak ace to push with.
12th April 2011, 6:34 AM
Poker at: full tillt
the main use of playing suited connectors is when there are limpers in front of you in the early stages. Point being that the implied odds of hitting your draw are good.
12th April 2011, 3:23 PM
Online Poker at: not sure yet
i don't like to shove with them unless i am in the red zone or are really close. It does depends on the stage of the tournament. I try not to let myself get in the red zone but it does happen. Try playing them earlier and you may find you have more chips and more action. The harder it is to put you on a hand range the tougher your opponents will have when you cbet a rainbow low flop.
Also you don't have to hit a straight or flush to win with suited connectors. you could flop trips, top pair, two pair etc. use a program like pokerstove (its free) and play with some of the combo's.
The beauty of suited connectors is you know where you stand after the flop. Well its easier to know where you stand. Mostly its hit or miss. I personally love them. you hit a concealed straight its a lot easier to get a lot of action. Most of the time the top pair or two pair guy is driving the betting and you just have to make the large river raise or bet.
You don't have to play ever suited connector you get but if you have enough chips and you can see the flop for a good price you should play them. Plus if you are really tight you can show the "trash" you just played. Remember position when picking the time to play.
13th April 2011, 12:09 PM
Poker Orifice [16,794]
re: Poker & When to start racing
I like 3betting with SC's. (& gappers, 75s, 74s, 86s, 64s, 53s, etc).
13th April 2011, 3:03 PM
Online Poker at: poker stars
Game: holdem & plo
10 big blinds r good to shove bro unless you get AA or AK or KK from 15 to 20 blinds frget about JJ and QQ they always cracked in this late time in the tournement