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ssbn743
Visionary
Silver Level
I have a whole series if questions, actually, that stem from a single live hand I played at the $600 MSPT Vegas. I know, it may not be wise to disclose results, but this post isn't really about the results that occurred, so - here's the history:
We have $18.5K in $50/$200/$400 with $14K effective
UTG 1010 - We open to $1K
+2 calls (effective stack)
And the BB calls
Jh 3c 9h
Flop action checks around
4d
Check/Check/+2 bets $1,500/fold/and we call
Ad
Check/he jams 11.5K/we tank for a bit, but make the call and lose to A9o
I'm not super excited with my call there. I think I talked myself into it when I knew he had it - players at this level are weighted heavily towards value in these situations - there just aren't that many bluffs he can have because he doesn't just cram it with bluffs - usually, anyway. But, I made the call since I didn't think a jam made value sense either - in addition to a few other reasons as well.
Now, I put pocket tens, on a Jack high flop into my Category 2 hand range, and checked the flop. Obviously, this allowed a weak/stabby opponent the rope he needed to hang himself with - it didn't work out in this case, but I am wondering more and more if this hand should have been placed into my Category 1 hand range and been cbet otf.
We have a range advantage, in this case, and a lot of very strong hands on this flop. Even though, our specific hand is not typically one we would declare 3 streets for value hand, we can represent one. Additionally, by placing this hand in my Category 2 range, I have to offset that range with my Category 4 hands - really, what Category 4 hands do I have here? Non-heart combinations of A5s is about it, really. So, putting this hand in C2 doesn't really balance that well.
So, basically, I'm wondering if this is a C1 hand on this flop? I think this is a good example of when things are not so cut and dry and would just like to see what everyone else thinks.
We have $18.5K in $50/$200/$400 with $14K effective
UTG 1010 - We open to $1K
+2 calls (effective stack)
And the BB calls
Jh 3c 9h
Flop action checks around
4d
Check/Check/+2 bets $1,500/fold/and we call
Ad
Check/he jams 11.5K/we tank for a bit, but make the call and lose to A9o
I'm not super excited with my call there. I think I talked myself into it when I knew he had it - players at this level are weighted heavily towards value in these situations - there just aren't that many bluffs he can have because he doesn't just cram it with bluffs - usually, anyway. But, I made the call since I didn't think a jam made value sense either - in addition to a few other reasons as well.
Now, I put pocket tens, on a Jack high flop into my Category 2 hand range, and checked the flop. Obviously, this allowed a weak/stabby opponent the rope he needed to hang himself with - it didn't work out in this case, but I am wondering more and more if this hand should have been placed into my Category 1 hand range and been cbet otf.
We have a range advantage, in this case, and a lot of very strong hands on this flop. Even though, our specific hand is not typically one we would declare 3 streets for value hand, we can represent one. Additionally, by placing this hand in my Category 2 range, I have to offset that range with my Category 4 hands - really, what Category 4 hands do I have here? Non-heart combinations of A5s is about it, really. So, putting this hand in C2 doesn't really balance that well.
So, basically, I'm wondering if this is a C1 hand on this flop? I think this is a good example of when things are not so cut and dry and would just like to see what everyone else thinks.