When to All-In in Short Stack Situation

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I recently played a lot of freeroll tournaments and I have always come up with the short stack situation. I usually move all-in pre-flop with about 15 - 20 BB left when I get K or higher or a pair and I am wondering do you guys have your own guidelines on when to shove?
 
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I mostly look for two high cards, you either look really strong going all in if you are tight or really weak, so its depending on your table situation and how you play each hand. but even through all the you might even get called with pair of 2's - a's , so the range is big , that why you would probally want to wait for k 10+
 
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15-20 BB is big enough stack. May be the half of all duration of the BIGs (not turbo tournaments at PS) average stack is being about this. No one shoves.
 
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Well I know my nash push fold quite well for up to 15 BB, and I generally stick to them unless the opponent is really crazy. It changes a bit with ICM, and obviously I have a different range if someone has raised, but it's all chart/ math based and so it's quite easy to learn. (Examples: http://www.pushfoldcharts.com/). As for how many BB I start to shove at, it really depends. If I am on the button against two nits, I might just raise with 12BB, because they are often inelastic and will call a shove if they call a raise, but if I am in early position, I might shove up to 20-25BB. It really just depends, as with a lot of things in poker.

Actually that's not true. If I decide to reg a micro stakes reg speed tourney early and I have 1000BB, I'm gonna shove with aces. People call with too much :p
 
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Getting into Shove/Fold mode from under 20 bbs is a bad idea
The Short stack principle only applies from 10bbs -12bbs under in general
anything above that is considered a good stack and should probably wait for good hand with decent equity and play accordingly taking position & player into account

Coming to Short Stack Strategy , I advise you to follow Nash charts which u can find online for free in some sites or you can pay for complete version
Even though Nash is good , If a player is quite experienced with the game he would follow his own strategy too

GL at the Tables
 
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I look for a position on a table also as I look for cards. Ideally I would like to get A and 10 or higher when I am on dealer button, small blind or big blind, then I would shove my chips. Also depends on type of players you play agains so I don't think there is a recepie for shove.
 
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There's some guides on the internet you can use, some nice card tables. But of course it also depends on the table you're playing at, the type and amount of players, and your stack size relative to the others. Still, if you're not playing turbo or hyper, I'd wait a bit longer to do aggresive all-in shoving.
 
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Position is 1 key.... another is your opponents, if they are calling light your pushing range is smaller then if they are tight
this may sound wierd since if you know they are playing tight then when they call your probably dominated, but the thing is when your in the button, and your player on the blinds are tight there chips will dwindle whilst yours continues to grow
secondly you cant raise fold anymore so if your going for a steal it has to be all in.

so pick your times correctly
A2s UTG is a direct fold in EP, but on the button if you got a short stack and know he wont call unless he has something then your in luck :)
 
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At final table, Red Zone 5 BB or less shove with A9 or better. Otherwise relax.
 
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just google push charts m8
 
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I think you are starting to have the right idea. 15-20 BB is a good range to look at a hand to shove with. The problem is your range. With 15-20 BB your should be LOOKING for an all-in hand, not shoving with Ax or Kx. No need to put all your chips in with junk, you still have time. When you hit 10bb or less, then I would consider a shove with Kx or Ax. With the range you listed and 15-20 BB the only hands that will call are going to have you crushed.
 
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in my situation I only do that when I have a very strong hand or not have much dependence on other hands since the start of a tournament is always the strongest manao tends make the devil as almost always several equaled
 
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some times short stacked u cant wait for that strong hand lol it deps on what hand u are ok to lose with or maybe get lucky and hit with lol
 
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You must be in a nice position so if it's possible to be only against one player. Ace plus some other card is ok, but it's not bad if it's something like JTs. If you are around 15 BB and without antes you may wait a little bit.for better cards.
 
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I do not do it at 15-20 BB and, at a lower stack 7-12 bb. So it will be correct
 
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don't play all in never just when you have AA KK
 
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depends on the position and how short, below 5bb any ace works anywhere but more than that i dont wanna call all-ins too much with just A4os or something, pocket pair & A10+ is almost always all in 10bb or below tho
 
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Go to all-in pre flop, so with AA or KK or QQ to me. In freerolls it handles very crazy and it's hard to risk them without that hand.
 
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The earlier position, the greater the need to have a hand to shove, you can push wider from late position.
 
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The earlier position, the greater the need to have a hand to shove, you can push wider from late position.

The position count for much, of course. But if you are with AA in the position under the gun and you are taking 1 or 2 aggressive players at the table and they are in the final positions. I give all in to face them, knowing that there is a good chance they pay. So I think also that friend is not only the position, but how players behave on the table. Do not know I said something wrong, but gave you understand?
 
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Undoubtedly, each tournament player gets into a situation, when the correct solution would be to just push or fold.Personally, I don't like to be provided in a such game monents, but pushfold is one of the strategies that are necessary to learn and improve all the time.
Of course, I will not describe my strategy of shove,but if you need to improve this skill there is a lot of interesting programs and video tutorials on this subject.So good luck!
 
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15-20bb is to big of a stack for this. You can play decent poker with this.
I would do this with 10BB<
as fat as math goes, then any Ax, any pair is good... at least you are hoping for a coin flip
 
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15-20 bb is very reasonable as for hands any pair suited connectors two high cards preferably before any other allin
 
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I prefer to go all in in this situation only when I have a pair in the hand, or with, at least an A. Sometimes a pair pré floppy is juste better than an AK, but only in this suicidal situations.
 
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