What's wrong with people?

Hey!
I just wanted to ask you all:
How normal is it to call a mid. pos. 3 BB raise when the mid. pos player is tight and the caller has 36 on the hand?

I just lost with my JJ to 36.
He hit 3 of a kind. Seriously, he could use some more practice.
It's funny to see that kind of play, but it's really not the best play.

Or what do you think?
Would you ever call a 3 BB raise when the raiser is tight?

Regards!

Niantic said:

Hey!
I just wanted to ask you all:
How normal is it to call a mid. pos. 3 BB raise when the mid. pos player is tight and the caller has 36 on the hand?

I just lost with my JJ to 36.
He hit 3 of a kind. Seriously, he could use some more practice.
It's funny to see that kind of play, but it's really not the best play.

Or what do you think?
Would you ever call a 3 BB raise when the raiser is tight?

Regards!

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What happend after the flop?

That's the more important thing here.

I have seen it all! Sometimes the bigger the bet the faster they call with nothing. I can't see myself making that call but I have sure seen it called many times.

Also have had people say they like those type cards as starting hands. Most times it wont pay off then there are times they play those on me and they seem to work more times than not regardless of the pre-flop raise.

atlantafalcons0 said:

What happend after the flop?

That's the more important thing here.

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Well, he hit mid. pair w/ 926, rainbow, on the flop.
And decided to go all-in.
I, of course, call with over pair, and have him beat untill the river, which gives him another 6, and the win.

Niantic said:

Well, he hit mid. pair w/ 926, rainbow, on the flop.
And decided to go all-in.
I, of course, call with over pair, and have him beat untill the river, which gives him another 6, and the win.

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You're leaving out a lot of important info like position, stack size, tourny info etc...

Stop letting these bother you. You'll lose about 1 in 4 or 1 in 5 of these situations.

KyleJRM said:

Stop letting these bother you. You'll lose about 1 in 4 or 1 in 5 of these situations.

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The guy probably thought he had a big ace...

I was in mid. pos. and the other guy was in SB.
I think it's the 2nd day in a row I've had a beat with a fishy call preflop and they get lucky and hit 3 of a kind.

Niantic said:

I was in mid. pos. and the other guy was in SB.
I think it's the 2nd day in a row I've had a beat with a fishy call preflop and they get lucky and hit 3 of a kind.

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Like Kyle said, don't let it bother you.

If you play enough, it will happen multiple times a day.



Here's one that happened to me the other day.

This beat is WAY worse than the one you are describing but it happens DAILY!

https://www.cardschat.com/forum/poker-goals-challenges-wins-46/life-just-aint-fair-174654/

First off this should be in the 'badbeats' section (you're not honestly asking if calling out of position w 63 is a good mtt play are you?).

Take a few breaths & fire up another one. It's idiots like that who will be part of your $'s in the longrun.

That's a crappy one!
One of my friends had one of the worst possible beats!
It was HU and he was BB. K7 suit in diamonds.
Flop: Ad3d4d
Turn: Tc
River: 2d

Guess what. the other guy had 59 off, but the 5 was a diamond!
That's just insane!!

Poker Orifice said:

First off this should be in the 'badbeats' section (you're not honestly asking if calling out of position w 63 is a good mtt play are you?).

Take a few breaths & fire up another one. It's idiots like that who will be part of your $'s in the longrun.

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Sorry for the section mistake
Couldn't find the bad beat section.

Poker Orifice said:

First off this should be in the 'badbeats' section (you're not honestly asking if calling out of position w 63 is a good mtt play are you?).

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If the stack sizes are correct then tbh its not a terrible play. Its called a stop and go.

Poker Orifice said:

First off this should be in the 'badbeats' section (you're not honestly asking if calling out of position w 63 is a good mtt play are you?).

Take a few breaths & fire up another one. It's idiots like that who will be part of your $'s in the longrun.

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It could be a decent ev play. What is the hand was suited and had huge implied odds?

I don't like calling them an idiot is the correct thing without all the info

I wouldn't call with 36 but it could be a decent ev.

Your gonna lose to crappy hands but in the long run you will win more often then not. There are times when I will make calls with junk, sometimes hoping to hit other times with intentions of stealing, against a tight player it is sometimes easier to do so because they are more apt to lay down a big hand on a scary board.

Here's a little reverse luck people often forget about: If you win three of four of these in a row without getting sucked out on, it's actually you who has defied the odds and gotten lucky.

Look at this way...

Would you rather have this opponent calling 3 bets with 36 or would you rather have this opponent to never play a bad hand and only play good hands/hands better than yours?

...This is where the profits come from. This is what bumps you up in tournaments, what gets you do the final table, etc. Players like these.

He was giving you great odds to begin with. It sounds like he was tired of waiting for hands so he went for it. He was probably gonna go for it and look for weakness in your hand. He just got lucky and worked out. Yeah i would have done the same thing

tenbob said:

If the stack sizes are correct then tbh its not a terrible play. Its called a stop and go.

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This would be just about the pooooooorest example of a 'stop n go' I've ever heard of..... pleazzzzzz. maybe a 'stop n think about it'

tomh7795 said:

It could be a decent ev play. What is the hand was suited and had huge implied odds?

I don't like calling them an idiot is the correct thing without all the info

I wouldn't call with 36 but it could be a decent ev.

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"Tournament Poker" & from reading post thru, it sounds as if villain has ~10bb?? (if stack was big enough to shove say a pot-sized bet on flop after calling 3x rs pre). How is villain going to have 'huge implied' odds on a shortstack in tournament play??????
To suggest this is 'decent EV'.... pretty sure you've got some work to do.

Why not let OP vent? I love it how members come to villain's rescue, defending their play.