What's multi-entry?

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That's something new. I am trying to figure out what it is, but without a success...
 
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You can re enter multiple times upon busting. I think that is what it is.
 
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It´s like what Erpherk said, in Multi-Entry tournaments, you´re allowed to buy-in several times to the same MTT either all at once or after you bust out during the early stages. And each re-enter and enter increase the field (and prize pool) dramatically.
 
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I remember in old times I have PokerSchool Core Ticket (Multi Tournament) . That was really great. It's a miracle for MTT tournaments. This is just my personal opinion.
 
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That's something new. I am trying to figure out what it is, but without a success...
As mentioned already, multi-entry MTTs are MTTs that allow you to re-enter into the same tournament.

Going a little be further, multi-entry MTT =/= re-buy MTT. Though similar in that you get to buy into the same MTT again if you bust out, the main difference is that with a multi-entry or re-entry MTTs, you pay the rake every time you do so. With re-buy MTTs, you only play the rake when you initially enter and and then just pay the tournament fee every time you re-buy.

So, if you re-enter 10x into a $1 + .10 re-entry MTT, you're paying $11 total, $1 in rake. If you re-buy 10x into a $1 + .10 re-buy MTT, you $10.10, .10 in rake.

Another key difference is that re-entry MTTs allow you to re-enter any time as long as its within their late registration period. Unlike with re-buys where you have to re-buy then and there. If you don't re-buy with in a given time, usually 30-60 seconds, you are out of the MTT. With a re-entry, you can bust out, then take a break for 10 min, the re-enter again if you wanted.

Finally, most re-entry MTTs start you off with deeper stacks than a re-buy MTT would as re-entry MTTs don't have the option of insant re-buying and adding-on after late reg ends. Re-buy MTTs start off with shallow stacks at ~50 BBs to entice players to re-buy early to have a 100 BB stack early. Re-buy MTTs also have an add-on option that differs between sites.
 
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Thank you all, but now I'm confused even more.

i) I very well know what's rebuy. I used the feature many times.
ii) I know what's re-entry (or at least I thought I new). I played few dozens tournaments with re-entry, though I never used the opportunity.
iii) I know that multi-entry is something different than re-entry.

Maybe I should have chosen a different formulation of the question:

What's the difference between re-entry and multi-entry?
 
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There are 2 accepted definitions of multi-entry and they have very different meanings.

1. A tourney where you can get knocked out and then can re-enter(ie repurchase your way in)

2. Cheating by playing multiple entries in the same tourney by using different names on different skins on the same network.
 
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There are 2 accepted definitions of multi-entry and they have very different meanings.

1. A tourney where you can get knocked out and then can re-enter(ie repurchase your way in)

2. Cheating by playing multiple entries in the same tourney by using different names on different skins on the same network.
No, I don't talk about cheating, I'm talking about official feature of some tournaments. I saw tourneys with 2 multi-entries and 0 re-entries. Maybe I should provide a screenshot, but I can't do that right now.
 
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As mentioned already, multi-entry MTTs are MTTs that allow you to re-enter into the same tournament.

Going a little be further, multi-entry MTT =/= re-buy MTT. Though similar in that you get to buy into the same MTT again if you bust out, the main difference is that with a multi-entry or re-entry MTTs, you pay the rake every time you do so. With re-buy MTTs, you only play the rake when you initially enter and and then just pay the tournament fee every time you re-buy.

So, if you re-enter 10x into a $1 + .10 re-entry MTT, you're paying $11 total, $1 in rake. If you re-buy 10x into a $1 + .10 re-buy MTT, you $10.10, .10 in rake.

Another key difference is that re-entry MTTs allow you to re-enter any time as long as its within their late registration period. Unlike with re-buys where you have to re-buy then and there. If you don't re-buy with in a given time, usually 30-60 seconds, you are out of the MTT. With a re-entry, you can bust out, then take a break for 10 min, the re-enter again if you wanted.

Finally, most re-entry MTTs start you off with deeper stacks than a re-buy MTT would as re-entry MTTs don't have the option of insant re-buying and adding-on after late reg ends. Re-buy MTTs start off with shallow stacks at ~50 BBs to entice players to re-buy early to have a 100 BB stack early. Re-buy MTTs also have an add-on option that differs between sites.



We are starting to have to pay the rake or entry fee in rebuys to.
 
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We are starting to have to pay the rake or entry fee in rebuys to.
Oh yeah?

I don't play a lot of re-buys and I remember not having to pay rake if did a re-buy.

I could understand the change, though.
 
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What's the difference between re-entry and multi-entry?
As far as I know, they're the same thing, just expressed differently.

I can say I'm playing a re-entry MTT in that I can re-enter into the same game if I bust out. Or, I can say I'm playing a multi-entry MTT in that I can make multiple entries into the same MTT.

Probably not the best example, but I believe they're the same thing. It probably started off being called 'multi-entry MTT' and then got switched to 're-entry' as it is just easier to say. Similar to how saying most people use terms like 3bet, 4bet instead of re-raise, re-re-raise. Just simpler terms.

The only thing I can think of that 'multi-entry' might be used differently is in satellite MTTs where you have to play multiple ones to get into a bigger game.

For example, you have to enter and win Sat1 to get into Sat2 to get into Sat3 to get into Big MTT. So, you're entering into multiple MTTs. However, I think these are more referred to as 'Step MTTs'.
 
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You sound logically and might well be right, but look what confuses me:


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It seems the playroom recognizes multi-entry and re-entry as different features...
 
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There are also Multi-entry games where you can buy in twice ( or more ) and play at two different tables in the same game. Depending on the specific rules of that game ... if you make it to the FT with both ( or more ) of your entries, your stacks will be combined.

So in the above Screen shot I would assume the below.

Multi-entry = Play at more than one table at once
Re-entry = Rejoin the game after you bust anytime before late reg. ends.
 
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There are also Multi-entry games where you can buy in twice ( or more ) and play at two different tables in the same game. Depending on the specific rules of that game ... if you make it to the FT with both ( or more ) of your entries, your stacks will be combined.
Uuuuuuuuuu, that sounds interesting! Though I'm not sure it's favorable for the player. Playing two consecutive tournaments is probably "bigger bang for the buck" (purely mathematically), than playing one tourney with two stacks.
However, strategically and tactically, the idea is sooooo attractive that is certainly worth a few tries. Unfortunately, it's WillHill, a playroom with very big table window (probably 1024x768), so it'll be a mess on the screen, but I MUST try!
I'll think a few days first, about strategy and tactics...

THANK YOU, BRO!
 
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unlike a rebuy tourney where you can add chips to your stack if you drop below a certain level a multi-entry allows you to buy back into the event after you busted out, and you come back with the standard starting stack.

Most tournys on PS have added this to boost prize pools. I would never re enter after first hour and a half due to the fact you probably only getting an extra 20 BBs or so
 
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Thank you for this explanation. I understood the basics of the two but always thought they meant the same thing and didn't consider there was such a specific difference - anyway appreciate the explanation!
As mentioned already, multi-entry MTTs are MTTs that allow you to re-enter into the same tournament.

Going a little be further, multi-entry MTT =/= re-buy MTT. Though similar in that you get to buy into the same MTT again if you bust out, the main difference is that with a multi-entry or re-entry MTTs, you pay the rake every time you do so. With re-buy MTTs, you only play the rake when you initially enter and and then just pay the tournament fee every time you re-buy.

So, if you re-enter 10x into a $1 + .10 re-entry MTT, you're paying $11 total, $1 in rake. If you re-buy 10x into a $1 + .10 re-buy MTT, you $10.10, .10 in rake.

Another key difference is that re-entry MTTs allow you to re-enter any time as long as its within their late registration period. Unlike with re-buys where you have to re-buy then and there. If you don't re-buy with in a given time, usually 30-60 seconds, you are out of the MTT. With a re-entry, you can bust out, then take a break for 10 min, the re-enter again if you wanted.

Finally, most re-entry MTTs start you off with deeper stacks than a re-buy MTT would as re-entry MTTs don't have the option of insant re-buying and adding-on after late reg ends. Re-buy MTTs start off with shallow stacks at ~50 BBs to entice players to re-buy early to have a 100 BB stack early. Re-buy MTTs also have an add-on option that differs between sites.
 
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unlike rebuy tournaments, in re entry tournaments you must lose your entire stack to be able to re entry, also there are no add ons in re entry tournaments so it might not be very profitable to re entry 2 hours after the tournament has started unlike rebuy tournaments in which you can make a double rebuy and then make an add on and still have a good stack.
 
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I would think that means Rebuy/Add-on. Probably a rebuy tourny up to a certain level (i.e. before the 1st break) and an add-on at the first break for a set amount of chips (usually equivalent to starting stack).
 
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There are 2 accepted definitions of multi-entry and they have very different meanings.

1. A tourney where you can get knocked out and then can re-enter(ie repurchase your way in)

2. Cheating by playing multiple entries in the same tourney by using different names on different skins on the same network.


i like this idea.

i saw in fulltilt poker that allow you to enter into a event from the start with 1-6 entrys ( and you must pay the buyin all of them ) ...i guess thats also a version of the definition :)
 
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The re-entries may be unlimited or limited to a specific number of re-entries also unlike re-buy tournaments when you re-enter you are given a new seat draw meaning you are almost always at a different table than you busted out on, this goes for live as well as online tournaments. I have only seen one tournament director run a live re-entry in which he allowed players to request being seated in the same seat they busted from.
 
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I think you can re entry if you drop from tourney.
In information about tourney write how many times you can re entry.
 
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