Originally Posted by ramdeebam
Firstly, vs these players tighten your raising range vs people who shove all in a lot and be prepared to raise/call lighter. Having these sort of players at the table is massively much better than facing a player who's likely going to be better in higher buy ins and outplay you pre and post flop.
How can you recognise a 3b/4b range accurately and play better post flop vs better players if you're struggling vs fish who are 3b shoving their stacks in the smaller buy ins with a wide range of hands?
Having reassurance that you're playing vs better players in higher buy ins won't be easier for you and it seems backwards your logic. I don't get it how it can be better and easier especially?
It's like saying playing a table full of regs who are winning players at a higher buy in, who know what to do and will better than you is going to be easier than a table fill of fish? If you played an equal sample size of both fish and regs at the same stakes, your return would be much, much, much better vs the fish and likely losing vs the regs. How does this equate to being easier/better for you?
how can I recognise 3bet 4bet range if Im struggling with fish 3b shoving their stacks? Didn't say I was struggling against the fishy types Its just a different strategy we have to use and larger fields...
3-bet 4-bet? the basics would be observing the table taking notes especially on exposed cards or hands folded post flop after initially 3-betting or pre flop, maybe probing players myself if I get a spot, So I can later know what (likely) would be the 3-bet range they are folding with, or whether they are likely to just get it in on the more aggressive side and take risks (Im not saying thats all you need to do because it is far far more complex)
Ramdeebam Obviously the fishy low stakes tables are easier, But my personal preference is playing against good thinking players I enjoy the game more it gets me motivated and in the zone, Im not saying for one minute I would enjoy multi tabling high buy in games, because I multi table at lower stakes for mtt's, but weekly I play several higher buy in tournaments pokerstars, and also spend an afternoon on satellites,
and over at 888 I will play the mtts as and when I fancy it.
Maybe easier was the wrong term, its more of a personal issue I have with respecting lower stake mtts, losing faith in the field of players after seeing so many unorthadox bad play I just go into a phase... and dont put as much in and focus more on multi tabling and playing a tighter range.
where as if I play a bigger tournament I like to switch off and solely focus on that one game and give every single player 100% attention and respect on an individual level.