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Just one situation I am interested in your opinion.

SNG fifty50 1.50$

Its on bubble. You are on SB with AKo and you are shortstack (850). There is one other shortstack (650) on your left. Blinds are 100/200.

One player (2700) from middle position limps, others fold. His range seems like average, around 20%...

What you gonna do? Shove or call to see flop?
 
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I would never call. That´s for sure. Personally when i play i play to win. So i would shove. Blinds are too high. You have a nice hand. So why not try a shot and gamble a little bit? That´s poker. Other thing. If he had a average range of 20% he could easily had AQ,AJ, or even AK for a split. Even if he had QQ,JJ or KK you still have a nice hand to gamble. For me AK is the best hand to gamble with in poker.
 
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In my opinion I would always shove in that spot. Why? 1. You have a hand in the top 5%. 2. If everyone folds you pick up a 500 which is more than half your stack. 3. You have 4bb left.

If you call there. Well the only reason I would consider doing that with the 100% intentions of going all in on the flop no matter what hits. That's a maniac move that works but it increases your chances of losing in a multi way pot.

Folding. Not an option in that situation..
 
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I would never call. That´s for sure. Personally when i play i play to win. So i would shove. Blinds are too high. You have a nice hand. So why not try a shot and gamble a little bit? That´s poker. Other thing. If he had a average range of 20% he could easily had AQ,AJ, or even AK for a split. Even if he had QQ,JJ or KK you still have a nice hand to gamble. For me AK is the best hand to gamble with in poker.

+1. I agree, chances are you won't catch anything better before you are blinded out and forced all in. I would shove. Suck outs do happen, but being short stacked, a call here would force you to go all in post flop, or be in an even worse spot for the remainder of the tourney. Push all in.
 
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Yep, agree with everyone, shove.
 
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Same here..Always shoving. It's a $1.50!
 
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Is there any time you would NOT shove with AKo when you have less then 5 big blinds left?

Are you going to get blinded out just so you can try to barely get in the money, or do you want to build chips to compete for first?

Passive play when the bubble comes in a weakness you should fix.
 
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Thanks for responses. I also shoved, he had KJ and with J on flop I got sucked out :) Anyway I think it was right and profitable move in long run. Just that fact that it was fifty50, on bubble and there was one other shortstack made me wonder what would other people do.
 
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Regardless of what the outcome was, I too concur with the shove. It was doubtful you were going to see a better hand in the next orbit and no guaranty that the other shorty wouldn't wake up with a hand that could profitably shove and win. That was more than likely your best opportunity to make it ITM with your stack size.
 
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Shove all day long and twice on Sunday's
 
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it is rare that I have a 100% answer since poker is so situational but this is a 100% shove 100% of the time.

calling is the worst option.
 
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Is there any time you would NOT shove with AKo when you have less then 5 big blinds left?

Are you going to get blinded out just so you can try to barely get in the money, or do you want to build chips to compete for first?

Passive play when the bubble comes in a weakness you should fix.

I don't think he understands that this is a 50/50 tourney. squeaking into the money is very valuable. There are A LOT of hands you'd fold right here because of the shorter stack.

For instance, I would easily fold AT and probably AJ right here.
 
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bad ass motha! Shove and maybe gamble here!
 
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You have to shove, even though your major threat is also short stacked you can't pass up an opportunity to reach a safer stack.
 
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In my opinion I would always shove in that spot. Why? 1. You have a hand in the top 5%. 2. If everyone folds you pick up a 500 which is more than half your stack. 3. You have 4bb left.

If you call there. Well the only reason I would consider doing that with the 100% intentions of going all in on the flop no matter what hits. That's a maniac move that works but it increases your chances of losing in a multi way pot.

Folding. Not an option in that situation..

Agree with this ^^,
assuming your playing with a deep bankroll you can afford to take that chance since we are winning most of the time, assuming limper calls us for 850, hes most likely got a smaller ace 'dominated or a small pair, Long term its the best +EV play
to shove
 
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You have 4bb. Calling isn't even worth considering. If you call and the BB checks, you'll see the flop OOP against two opponents. You'll miss about 2/3 of the time, and then what will you do?

If the BB shoves, what are you going to do if the limper calls> And if he folds? In either case, can you fold AK here? Of course not.

Put all this together, and it's an insta-shove pre-.
 
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You did the right move by shoving with you re chip count there was nothing else to do especially with AK its an automatic all in, you just got unlucky it happens thats poker
 
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Push, you do not need to even think about this.
 
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all in.
call or fold isnt an option
 
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Shove. No brainer.

Here's why:

a) You fold. You just folded what might be your best hand before your blinds run out or your double up value puts you right back in the same short stack position. No good.

b) You call. If the BB raises - then what? Or, the BB calls and you go multi-way to the flop. Your hand equity is under 50/50 and you have no betting power. Yikes! Better flop good AND hope someone calls to pay you off.

c) You shove.
a) both players fold: FREE MONEY!
b) the SB folds, limper calls: unless he has KK or AA you have at least a 50/50 shot of winning.
c) the SB calls: chances are the limper will fold.
d) they both call - at least no one can bluff you out and you have a fair shot at tripling up.
 
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Jam it in, theirs no other way you should play that hand
 
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U gotta shove when u need the chips man, you are likely ahead cant afford to fold
 
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If theres only one short stacker less than u, u have to go for that and make a call there...
But say if u have atleast 3 or more players with lesser stack than u then i would ask u to fold and wait till u get into the money !!!
 
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Just one situation I am interested in your opinion.

SNG fifty50 1.50$

Its on bubble. You are on SB with AKo and you are shortstack (850). There is one other shortstack (650) on your left. Blinds are 100/200.

One player (2700) from middle position limps, others fold. His range seems like average, around 20%...

What you gonna do? Shove or call to see flop?

Shove of course. Limper will call you. ;)
 
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