What is the Strongest Range You Ever Put Someone On?

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WillinNewHaven

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This could be a cash-game question also but pre-flop decisions for your stack, or the other guy's stack, are more common in tourneys so I will post this here.

First of all, there have been two incidents when I put a player on Aces and only Aces but the circumstances were rare. In _both_ cases a cagey old moron said something like "I guess it's time to go home" and shoved in early position with a reasonable stack when we were already in the money.
The first time this happened, I had already folded a bad hand (I do that on occasion) but he got three callers. He had Aces.
The second time someone did that I had Aces but I was still sure he had Aces and I called and said "Chop?" when we turned over our hands and he had Aces.
Normally, I have never put anyone on a range stronger than QQ+/AK, which is enough to get me to fold Queens unless I needed to play them against that range. It wouldn't be tragic to fold Queens against that range because you lose often enough to AK so it's a decision about your remaining stack and whether you can continue with it.
I would be tragic to fold Kings against that range and I don't.
 
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AA or KK are usually so easy to pinpoint it's hilarious. Strong players are good at disguising them, but weaker and average players are awful with it. Most will not 3bet for about 3 hours, then all of a sudden 3bet, 4bet, or shove - guaranteed AA or KK.

What really sucks is getting KK and knowing that a preflop 3better is holding AA, but you have to call because you are almost always getting great odds to do so.
 
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Yea its not easy to tell when strong players have premiums. Fairly obvious when the nits start raising or even just limping depending on how often they limp. Also not easy to tell when the limpers have premiums lol. Open limp everything.
I just get out of the way with most hands once the nits start raising.
The usual range I put for very tight players is normally KQ+, AJ+, TT+.
Against absolute nits its AQ+, JJ+.
 
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Average players seem to show how confident they are in their hands without having a clue that their doing it. Which for us makes this game very profitable... I've folded KK preflop so many times, because I just knew someone had AA then I would talk them in showing me... It amazes me that how many times I've folded face up and they showed me I was right. But for every time I made the right laydown I've seen AK a few times too... lol
 
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Yeah; I've put people on AA/KK a number of times. (Still didn't stop me calling though because I'm a fish)
 
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Qh Th exact two cards on an Ah Kh Jh flop, grrrrrrrr.:)
 
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