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What are the odds that pocket Queens get busted all 7 times?

Any magicians in the house, oh I mean mathematicians.
 
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I'm working on it, this is a tough one. going to take time;)

I put this under the wrong thread title I apologize to everybody, I don't see how to change it though.
 
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if you think that there is 6 possible Queens and the total of possible hands is 1326 at one game the probabilite to have queens is 6/1326 = 0.45% this to happens in 7 table consecutively the odds is like ((0.0045)^7)*100% = 3.73*10^(-15) or 0,000000000000003736

if I am not wrong.
 
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if you think that there is 6 possible Queens and the total of possible hands is 1326 at one game the probabilite to have queens is 6/1326 = 0.45% this to happens in 7 table consecutively the odds is like ((0.0045)^7)*100% = 3.73*10^(-15) or 0,000000000000003736

if I am not wrong.

No, don't think you are and that's my point. :)
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What are the odds that pocket Queens get busted all 7 times?

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It all depends on the style of play before and on the flop :) QQ 7 times maybe 3-4 bad! Play with aggression! But not to press on!
 
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Poker defines quantum physics, everything has a pattern and there has to be one guy in the world that is the luckiest player in the world. Just like there has to be a winner in any tournament, the same for the unluckiest poker players in the world and the first person out in a tournament. The players that get the bad luck should quit poker because it doesn't matter what you do you will always get dealt the bad end of the stick. Make sense? So yes these things simply do happen and the reason is that there is so many players playing and billions of hands being dealt that your 1 in a million chance of getting a bad hand is so much more likely to happen.
 
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what are you doing with these mathematical raskaty? I purely understand what you will give, or you just wanted to brag?
 
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Poker defines quantum physics, everything has a pattern and there has to be one guy in the world that is the luckiest player in the world. Just like there has to be a winner in any tournament, the same for the unluckiest poker players in the world and the first person out in a tournament. The players that get the bad luck should quit poker because it doesn't matter what you do you will always get dealt the bad end of the stick. Make sense? So yes these things simply do happen and the reason is that there is so many players playing and billions of hands being dealt that your 1 in a million chance of getting a bad hand is so much more likely to happen.

You get dealt more terrible hands than premo hands;). Irregardless of being dealt a good hand vs a bad hand, a hand Is just a hand, and It all depends on many factors (Beside the obvious).

1) Who you're up against. So If you're up against a "Passive/Folding station to Cbets" the strength of your hand really doesn't matter.

2) If you're up against a "nutter", who plays rather very aggressive, Ace high maybe good, on a wet board.

My point Is, Is that the game Is so much more than your cards that, If you're only looking at your cards than you're not evolving and are actually stuck at a "Certain area" and thus need to work on your own game.

Again my 2 cetns.

Now onto the OP's question, I'm not good at the "Pre-flop Mathematics". Yet my question Is In all the situations that the "Queens" lost In, exactly how/what was the action? Who were the opponents? What were their styles? Did you have a HUD running If so what were the stats? Was It like 5bet pre? If It was 5bet pre or such, than did these players ever 5bet with say AKo+AKs/AQo+AQs+AJo+AJs+10s+, or were they only 5betting with say QQ+? As most players don't 5bet with QQ but only with KK+.

Again sorry to hear your rough run of cards but that's life and It actually happened similar to me once where I lost 6 or 7 times straight with AA myself (6 or so years ago)
 
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Depends on the hands QQ was up against.

However, the result of QQ losing in one hand does not affect the results of the following hands. So, if its QQ vs KK, it's still losing 20% of the time no matter how many times it lost previously.
 
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its same with KK or AA these preflop you think its a hard hand? all in...QQ noot is strong...just call for the set
 
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what are you doing with these mathematical raskaty? I purely understand what you will give, or you just wanted to brag?

not bragging, bluffing, this is a poker site right?

Besides pot odds, any math needed at the table is memorization not math, except for the initial calculations, but those can be found online put into a chart and memorized.

Are you Russian? What does raskaty mean?

Not saying you don't know the following but for beginners following this,it is good knowledge.

5 outs using the rule of 2: 2% X 5 outs or 10% for one street, or 90:10 or 9:1 hand odds so pot odds need to be better than 9:1 to be profitable in the long run. That's any hand with 5 outs at any time ever in Texas Hold'em.

if two streets use the rule of 4: 4% X 5 outs or 20% for two streets, or 80:20 or 4:1 hand odds, so pot odds need to be better than 4:1 to be profitable in the long run. This is usually only used when villain has gone all in as one wants to know the present (one street at a time) and not the future (both streets).

The rule of 4 has a little kicker to it.

For every out above 8 outs Subtract 1% for final hand odds

For instance:

12 out using rule of 4: 4% X 12 outs or 48% for two streets, minus 1% for every out over 8 outs our 4% so hand odds drop to 44% for two streets, or 56:44 or 1.27:1 hand odds, so pot odds need to be better than 1.27:1 to be profitable in the long run.

once the chart is memorized to 15 outs one should work on pot odds which is tough live when blinds get big. and work ones way up to 25 out which happen but not often, and when ya have 25 outs are all those really outs?

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