What did I do wrong here.....would love some advice

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Merge - $0+$0|<> NL - Holdem - 10 players

MP: 70.4 BB (VPIP: 63.64, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 11)
Hero (MP+1): 73.83 BB
MP+2: 67.67 BB (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
CO: 65.67 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
BTN: 52.5 BB (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
SB: 62.27 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
BB: 62.67 BB (VPIP: 29.63, PFR: 7.41, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)
UTG: 72.83 BB (VPIP: 26.09, PFR: 4.35, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)
UTG+1: 69.33 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
UTG+2: 69.5 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6:diamond: 6:club:

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.27 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 2.27 BB, fold, fold, UTG calls 1.27 BB

Flop: (8.3 BB, 3 players) 3:club: 4:heart: 6:spade:
UTG checks, Hero bets 4.17 BB, fold, UTG calls 4.17 BB

Turn: (16.63 BB, 2 players) 9:heart:
UTG checks, Hero bets 16.67 BB, UTG calls 16.67 BB

River: (49.97 BB, 2 players) 2:club:
UTG checks, Hero bets 18.33 BB, UTG raises to 49.73 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 31.4 BB

Hero shows 6:diamond: 6:club: (Three of a Kind, Sixes) (Pre 81%, Flop 75%, Turn 82%)
UTG shows 5:spade: 5:diamond: (Straight, Six High) (Pre 19%, Flop 25%, Turn 18%)
UTG wins 149.43 BB
 
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Merge - $0+$0|<> NL - Holdem - 10 players

MP: 70.4 BB (VPIP: 63.64, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
Hero (MP+1): 73.83 BB
MP+2: 67.67 BB (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
CO: 65.67 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
BTN: 52.5 BB (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
SB: 62.27 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
BB: 62.67 BB (VPIP: 29.63, PFR: 7.41, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)
UTG: 72.83 BB (VPIP: 26.09, PFR: 4.35, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)
UTG+1: 69.33 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
UTG+2: 69.5 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6<font color='red'>♦</font> 6<font color='black'>♣</font>

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.27 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 2.27 BB, fold, fold, UTG calls 1.27 BB

Flop: (8.3 BB, 3 players) 3<font color='black'>♣</font> 4<font color='red'>♥</font> 6<font color='black'>♠</font>
UTG checks, Hero bets 4.17 BB, fold, UTG calls 4.17 BB

Turn: (16.63 BB, 2 players) 9<font color='red'>♥</font>
UTG checks, Hero bets 16.67 BB, UTG calls 16.67 BB

River: (49.97 BB, 2 players) 2<font color='black'>♣</font>
UTG checks, Hero bets 18.33 BB, UTG raises to 49.73 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 31.4 BB

Hero shows 6<font color='red'>♦</font> 6<font color='black'>♣</font> (Three of a Kind, Sixes) (Pre 81%, Flop 75%, Turn 82%)
UTG shows 5<font color='black'>♠</font> 5<font color='red'>♦</font> (Straight, Six High) (Pre 19%, Flop 25%, Turn 18%)
UTG wins 149.43 BB


Other than checking back the river (nothing else). I mean what calls a flop bet+turn bet that you beat?

Yeah it's easy to say well this now (because I see the cards), and yes you do beat a ton to 2pair hands but that's really all you beat was 2pair hands and nothing else.

For the future though, if you want feed back, don't show results and rephrase the title as.

What is my best line on river vs 2 barrels call down (or something of that nature)
 
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I should have checked on the river......i see that now...LOL....silly silly me
 
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I snap called that last raise too. I should have given it more thought.
 
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Other than checking back the river (nothing else). I mean what calls a flop bet+turn bet that you beat?

Yeah it's easy to say well this now (because I see the cards), and yes you do beat a ton to 2pair hands but that's really all you beat was 2pair hands and nothing else.

For the future though, if you want feed back, don't show results and rephrase the title as.

What is my best line on river vs 2 barrels call down (or something of that nature)

That's actually the first hand i ever posted. Next time i will not include the result.....thanks for your feedback.....

You are right. What else would call my flop and turn bets? Obviously a low pair straightdraw....LOL.....

Do you think I perhaps was not betting enough on the flop and turn? in general 2-3BB on the flop would scare out most low pairs I think.

was the guy who called me wrong for calling my bets on the flop and turn? Sure, he did wind up completing his straight but do you think he was taking too much risk in calling my bets, in general?

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That's actually the first hand i ever posted. Next time i will not include the result.....thanks for your feedback.....

You are right. What else would call my flop and turn bets? Obviously a low pair straightdraw....LOL.....

Do you think I perhaps was not betting enough on the flop and turn? in general 2-3BB on the flop would scare out most low pairs I think.

was the guy who called me wrong for calling my bets on the flop and turn? Sure, he did wind up completing his straight but do you think he was taking too much risk in calling my bets, in general?

thanks again



Ok, it's a free roll I'm guess correct? Take that+the fact that he has a VPIP of 24/4 (Something like that).

You know that he's already is a station (and a passive one at that), So once the flop comes out with the OESD vs your set, he's never folding, because (He doesn't put you on anything, but 2 overs, maybe an over pair, hell lets say he even gave you the set in your range).

The main thing your over looking is he's a station, and they just doesn't fold. When he checks river to you, station tend to do this (So they think they are being sneanky:rolleyes: ), but in all reality they are letting you know we have the goods.

Now if the players VPIP was like 40/28 or something of that nature you know they don't have a 5 yet are extremely aggressive and love to bluff alot thus meaning your raise on river would've been great, because these types of players can't control themselves
 
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It was a $315 freeroll with 96 or so players.....

I didn't put too much stock in the player's stats since I never played him before and only had 11-hands on him.

It is as clear as day now....I should have jsut called on the river....next time I wont' maket hat mistake (*hopefully*)
 
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I would have raised more pre after the UTG limper to around 4x in general. Not sure it changes this hand much as I bet he's calling any raise there (likely a donk limping utg).
 
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why would we raise this preflop guiys?? any reason?
 
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why would we raise this preflop guiys?? any reason?

I don't see any reason for it, but again, If I did I'm not making it past 2.5x-2.7x but forget 4x
 
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That's actually the first hand i ever posted. Next time i will not include the result.....thanks for your feedback.....

Otherwise, you can post the hand results as a spoiler by heading them with a [ spoiler ] tag and ending with [ /spoiler ] no spaces
 
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why would we raise this preflop guiys?? any reason?
this ^ exactly

Without reading through the rest of this thread I was thinking the same thing... & then seeing the min.-raise over a UTG limper had me wondering???? Then reading a suggestion we make it 4x?? (& assuming it's donk limper in UTG)
idk.. w/o reads in early levels I tend to put a UTG limp on a stronger range than just assuming > 'donk limper'. It obviously depends on what game it is but often find you'll see a range like 55-99, KQs, AJs, AJo.. maybe KJs

I think raising 4x over a UTG limp in early levels with a sm pp. is looking for problems. (ie. if they'd raised I'd be folding in this spot, if they limped I'd maybe call but it depends).
 
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I don't see any reason for it, but again, If I did I'm not making it past 2.5x-2.7x but forget 4x
So if you don't see a reason for it....

I think you run the risk of getting multi-way in a bloated pot, out of position with a hand that is going to typically be terrible to play in that spot.
 
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Yeah it's easy to say well this now (because I see the cards), and yes you do beat a ton to 2pair hands but that's really all you beat was 2pair hands and nothing else.
What 2pr. hands are we putting villain on here??? Villain limp/calls UTG with 63s? 64o?,.... 93, 96? :confused:
 
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I would rather agree with your play here. No regrets since you mention its a freeroll.
Its a different story if its cash game or medium to high tourney buy-in here. I will copy your analysis river check at this condition.
 
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What 2pr. hands are we putting villain on here??? Villain limp/calls UTG with 63s? 64o?,.... 93, 96? :confused:

It was a free-roll PO and we all know in those types of things ATC seems to be golden at times;)
 
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I will bet more on flop 3/4 pot, turn this same and chech the river. Look how you are bet 1/2 flop, pot bet turn and you only 1/3 on river this looks realy weak..
 
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It was a free-roll PO and we all know in those types of things ATC seems to be golden at times;)
But even in a freeroll, how often should we be assuming that someone's range is ATC, especially in raised pots?
 
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