What hands do to shove with 8-10BBs left in a stt?

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I normally shove pretty wide in LP and not a great deal ep. Presume no reads on anybody do u shove any ace anywhere, broadway and any pair? Include SCs on the button and SB?
I just fInd myself too often shoving A3 in the CO and being called by A8.
Any advice on what to shove?
Ty
 
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I normally shove pretty wide in LP and not a great deal ep. Presume no reads on anybody do u shove any ace anywhere, broadway and any pair? Include SCs on the button and SB?
I just fInd myself too often shoving A3 in the CO and being called by A8.
Any advice on what to shove?
Ty

Stuff that plays well against calling ranges.

So, without thinking for you, what type of hands do opponants typically call with?

What type of hands do you think would play well against the hands opponants call with?
 
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People normally all with any high ace, unless I'm shoving a lot then any ace, and any pp.
So shoving ace rag is bad? SCs better? Then any high ace, and pp.
So you shove 67s but not A5o?
 
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People normally all with any high ace, unless I'm shoving a lot then any ace, and any pp.
So shoving ace rag is bad? SCs better? Then any high ace, and pp.
So you shove 67s but not A5o?

Of course it depends, but you are generally on the right track :D.
 
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I play nitty, but to me, my shoving range also depends on how many players are left.
 
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The push/fold game is the crux of SNG play, and it is not as straight forward as asking, what do I shove in this position. We could make 500 posts here about when and what to shove from each position. I can certainly give you guidelines, but I do not think that it is helfpul for me to say, for example, you need to shove Ax from the CO and A10+ from MP. There are several factors that need to go into these push/fold decisions:

How many players are left?

What are the stack sizes that I am pushing into?

When are the blinds going up?

What are the calling ranges of my opponents?

etc, etc, etc....

I do not think that it is helpful either (well at least for me), to memorize charts to figure out what to shove in which position. I believe it is more important for you to invest in SNG Wizard or at least SNG End Game Tools (free download). This way, you can replay your own hands and push/fold decisions and get a better understanding as to what range of hands you should be pushing in different scenarios. With 8-10 BB, there are times you can push any two cards, and other times you need to tighten up a bit.

So overall, I think you should learn all you can about ICM and how that affects your push/fold decision making process, then apply that knowledge when using an ICM calculator like SNG Wizard.
 
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I will only shove with AA (sometimes KK).. cuz I want to see the flop!
 
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I will only shove with AA (sometimes KK).. cuz I want to see the flop!

Except for the time you shoved Q8 off into my AA lol. Oh well, happens to the best of us when we are short stacked. :D
 
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if you push Aw/ small kicker then ur gonna have a hard time winning... i would ckeck or call blind unless all ins or huge stacks are pushing in... then i fold.. gl with those cards
 
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Except for the time you shoved Q8 off into my AA lol. Oh well, happens to the best of us when we are short stacked. :D
Must've been my cat (again).. cuz I personally cannot recall this hand scenario??
 
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I'll shove with any cards that have a number or a picture on them. But hey, that just me.
 
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I would have say in the LP and if everyone limps OR you only have SB and BB left, with any suited AX, any pair over 5s. Early position, As-10s, AK, AQ, AJ, KQ suited, QJ suited.... that's just me. Middle position with someone calls before you and few players remaining after you ONLY go all-in with As-10s, AK suited... that's it, rest of the hand just call.
 
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any pocket pair, Ace 8 and above, and KQ
 
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I would rather shove QJs vs. A2o in any position.
 
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Depends on alot of things, stack sizes, how fishy people are after me etc. If I'm in a new table I always briefly look at the past 4 hands or so(I think thats all it allows) to get an idea of whos the fish and reevaluate from there.

Pick your spots its really hard to talk about it from afar

I wouldn't religiously start pushing A8 suited in lp either or QJ/KQ from EP it all depends on table dynamics and so on and where your stack sits with the rest of the table. If I'm dangerously short like I have 1k compared to everyone having 2.5k+ I'll push much wider and shove hands like KQ QJ without an after thought BUT what action takes place before me, how many people left on the table etc, dictates this.
 
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10 9 suited +. In position. I usually play multiple games at a time so if I bust, oh well, theres always volume to make up for it. But that's just me.
 
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