re: Poker & What do you do?
George is very aggressive, and I know it. I donít think he hit a set here because Iím nearly certain he would value raise less than all-in. The only hands Iím afraid of from him are K8 and K9. Thatís how I was thinking about it in real time as well; and both hands are well within his second limp range.
However, Iíve seen him numerous times over the many years I played him use this kind of move with a weak hand, but let me be clear, I knew this was not a bluff, he certainly had a piece. I even said so out loud at the table, ďI know youíve only got a King GeorgeĒ as I watched him stare calmly at the table.
My gut was screaming call, call, call, CALL, CALL, CALL, CALL, CALL, CCCCAAAAAALLLLLLLLL!
But my head was telling me not to:
1. This is a limped pot and we all know Doyleís rule never to lose all your chips in an un-raised pot.
2. He could easily have bottom two-pair beat.
3. I have virtually no money invested.
4. If I f*&^ this up, I lose a really nice stack that I worked long and hard to get.
On the flip side:
1. I could double up and gain nearly a 6:1 chip lead over the next nearest stack with 2 tables left.
2. I could eliminate two players in one fell swoop.
We always talk about playing fearless poker, but I just couldnít do it; I felt the risk far outweighed the reward even though I knew I was good with bottom two pair; I, therefore, FORCED myself to fold in clear contradiction to every instinct and gut feeling I had!
After I folded the UTG player calls all-in and shows
My bottom two pair would have held up after the turn and river were dealt! His action really does irritate the hell out of me, I couldíve have knocked a player out, something that would have been mutually beneficial; instead he gets involved with a questionable hand and nearly triples the short stack; WTF George? But this is exactly the kind of player he is and is the exact same reason I was nearly sure I was good on the flop.
I still feel the risk outweighed the reward and was generally glad I folded.
All three of the players listed in the post made the final table, but the weak player that was UTG folded his way to 9th place out of 9 paid; we also agreed to each pay the 10th place bubble $20, so he essentially got nothing; he actually blinded out as well, so that was kind of fun to watch!
However, George ended up knocking me out in 6th place!
Part of the problem was with the way the casino changed the structure to accommodate casual players as I said in the OP. At the final table we actually went from $6000/$12000/$1000 to $15000/$30000/$2000 and my $250K went from 20BB to 8BB in the blink of an eye. I still think that was total bull. There were $2.3 million chips in play and only two stacks above $500K; the average stack was 9BB-10BB; it was total crap and Iím still a little sore about it.
From the SB I was dealt
After everyone folded to George on the button he raised to $90K with about $250 back. As I said, whenever George raises pre-flop he has a hand, but I still felt I had no choice and moved all-in with 8BB and a suited Ace. He called with QQ and my night was over in 6th place.
So when I think back to that 89 hand I just cringe; I couldíve taken him out and also maybe had enough chips to survive the f*&^ed up structure!
So I guess that brings us to the point of this thread:
Do you call when it feels right, despite your knowing that every poker book and strategy article you have ever read tells
you not to?