Ways to avoid the closing bubble

Jblocher1

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Ok guys,
So I was just playing in one of the freeroll qualifiers into the OSS. Where the top 4 advance. I was short stack by about 10k. I had 40k, the next shortest was 50k. The blinds were 3k/6k. I ended up going out in fifth. I had AQ, and I decided it was now or never. I called a shove to a guy with pocket 10's couldnt catch. I was wondering if you guys had some strategies on how to play when in the bubble. Was my call ok? any critiscizm, help, or strategies would be great.
 
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wow that is a very good, and very tough question.. i have no problem with the shove with 5 players left with such a short stack, and trying to advance.. i have been in this situation before, and it will drive you crazy replaying the hand in your head.. me personally i woulda went for it and tried to chip up a little bit like you did, you can't exactly just sit as the shortest stack with those blinds
 
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Call was fine, don't hang about unless you're fairly sure you'll be safe.
 
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Ok thanks. Yah I thought that if I didn't risk it there I would go out in fifth anyways
 
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With an M of 4 you were already on life support. No choice but to get it in. Need to get aggressive a whole lot sooner. If you sit around waiting for a hand you will bubble a lot.
 
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With an M of 4 you were already on life support. No choice but to get it in. Need to get aggressive a whole lot sooner. If you sit around waiting for a hand you will bubble a lot.

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You don't win by waiting around hoping you don't lose.
 
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I understand the comments and all, but in a situation where everyone is going to win the same prize it is ok to apply survival tactics. Yes I agree steal when you can. Position poker is strong poker. This being said if you folded there, there is a good chance one of your other opponents would have messed up in the next 4 rounds. AQ is a strong hand, especially 5 handed, but it is also an overrated hand. I've applied a very snug playing style close to the bubble many times and it works.
 
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I remember one time I was playing the Sunday Mil on PS and there were 6 people left till bubble and I had AA in the BB with a 45k stack. I was so paranoid about bubbling I starting typing "I have aces and I will show", over and over again. Guy in the cutoff still raises, and I of course shove. He calls with 33 and has me covered, and hits the 3 and I bubble. I was steaming to say the least. Looking back on it, I laugh and its probably what I deserve, but my point is a lot of times if it's going to happen, it's going to happen.

PS what makes this story even funnier, my screen name on PS was Acesinthebig, lol
 
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I think shoving was correct, even if ur all winning the same prize, the amt you were short was too much to sit and pray
 
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u know,sometimes when its that tight,its very important to shove whenever possible and always before your stack gets short enough to not be frightening.i know alot of us say,why risk it,i still have alot of BB left but before you know it ,your the new short stack so i like under the gun shoves with good hands even not too good in order to steal blinds in poitions like that. UTG makes it look stronger just makes sure u have a suited weak ace at the least.
 
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hard decision but i think i would also have called here
 
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I actually read the OP again. My initial thought was that being on one of the shorter stacks, with less than 10xBB left, A-Q is not a bad hand to get them in with. In fact, I wouldn't hesitate to shove with A-Q there. And while I don't think this was a bad call at all, I would also point out that what I would go all-in with may not be the same hand that I would call an all-in with.
 
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what I would go all-in with may not be the same hand that I would call an all-in with.

Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.... a winner!

Again, like I said, for whatever reason you (OP) were in a situation where you had no option but to go for it on this hand. Just try to avoid being in those situations in the future (not entirely realistic, but shoot for it). Because it just really sucks having no options.

To Acesinthefog: Okay, think for a second - if you are in a tourney and some guy starts screaming he has AA.....
And yeah, if all prizes are equal then it is okay to do whatever you need to do to get past that bubble (which usually doesn't include doing nothing). But what was your situation?
 
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With an M of 4 you were already on life support. No choice but to get it in. Need to get aggressive a whole lot sooner. If you sit around waiting for a hand you will bubble a lot.
This is just wrong.
This is a 'satellite'. Often in satties you'll see many stacks getting very short as we approach the bubble.
Playing for the win here = winning a ticket.
What your 'M' value is means very little. The size of your stack in relation to the size of the other stacks is key.

This hand, calling off with AQ I think I'd probably opt to just fold. You call & win how much does your tourney equity increase vs. calling & losing?
I'd be happier to open-shove 97s then to call it off here in this spot with AQ.
 
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Aww crap - busted - I skipped right over "the top four advance" (and other relevant info).
NEVERMIND!
 

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