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Hey guys, I decided to play some 6 max sng on 888 Poker and i have been doing very good the last couple of days since i started playing these.

Anyways, I decided to film myself playing 2 of them at once and here is the video, posted on Vimeo. I promise you that the quality is great unlike my other video I posted here on Cardschat.

Here are the stats I have on my HUD:
Nr hands / Vpip / Pfr / AqF
3bet Pre / WTSD / W$SD / Fold to 3bet Pre
Fold to Cbet / Fold to Turn Cbet / Fold to river bet

I know it is not the greatest HUD, it is made for cash basically and i thinking about modifying it for SNGs.

Here is the video, let me know what you guys think.

http://vimeo.com/19368704
 
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Having just watched your video it's reminded me of why I dislike turbo games - 5 minutes in and it's a shovefest! That said you articulated your strtegy and generally it's the right one to employ at such tables (just not what I would personally enjoy).

A couple of critiques:

On table 2 you folded 78s in the SB when it would only have cost you 10 chips to call and see a flop. For that price it has to be worth a call as you could hit a monster. If you don't then you've not lost a lot of chips just to see.

On table 2 when you went heads up you stated that you wanted to show aggression but to my mind you didn't. Too many times the villain simply called when in the SB and you checked back. I would put pressure on him a lot more either by raising or shoving there - you allowed him to see too many flops. He then quite often checked the flop and you checked back - betting here would have taken him off the hand more I feel. By allowing him always to see a flop you encourage the same behaviour - raising gets him into line and puts the question and the pressure back to him. Effectively "if you want to see a flop you've got to pay for the privilege".

Table 1 - I don't think Q4 was a great shove at that stage but I think you know that! You got lucky though which always helps :)

Hope this helps and good luck to you!
 
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Heads up AKs when you raised 3xBB and you said you wanted to shove, i don't think a raise here it too bad. Certainly on FT when you raise a limper they think you're trying it on, so shove to try and get you off your hand. If you shoved you have less chance of getting it in IMO as he can only call with decent hands which are rarer. However if he calls and you miss the flop a difficult decision arises, and so maybe shoving is prefered.
 
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AQs- while raising is fine and standard, we also have an option to limp behind in spots like this. AJs, ATs are both hands i'd opt to limp behind with, just beacuse we have the button doesn't mean we need to raise, when one, if not both players are likely to call it, putting us in akward spots postflop.

AKo (in the BB)- Here is certainly a spot where i'd just opt to check my option in the BB and see what happens on the flop. Basically, i'd rather just see a cheap flop, rather than raising when out of position when it's likely those who are in position will call. Basically it's just helping those players play bigger pots when they have control. Since we are so shrot in SNGs, we put ourselves in akward spots postflop when raising hands like this, as we don't have room to move postflop like we would in an MTT.

On the flop, we're going for two streets of value, so i'd bet an amount that sets me up for a nice turn shove. 220, i believe you bet is ok, but i think it sets up for an overpot shove on the turn, so i'd likely make the flop bet a little larger. overall looks good.

78s- we can certainly see a flop here, 78s is exactly the type of hand we want to be seing cheap flops with, it's only 10 chips out of our stack, it's not going to kill us to complete here. There's only one reason i wouldn't, if the BB is aggressive and likely to raise, then i'd just fold and wouldn't waste time.

If you have problems folding Top pair type hands postflop, i'd also advise folding this hand.

76s ( YOu in BB with passive SB)-

This is perfect, and an example to others. You actually don't need stats on players to work out to bet this here. If any player at any time completes the SB and then checks the flop, i'm betting 100% of the time.

However bet sizing is a touch large, we want to make the smallest bet possible to get a fold here, while not risking too much. I'd make it around 110 here, i don't really think anymore than that is neccesary to get folds, there are not many draws present and we don't have to be worried about getting called much.

You don't need to "try and represent" that you have anything. Likelihood is that your opponant is stupid, thus he is only thinking about his cards, or perhaps the beer he is drinking. Just bet it for the reason that he is likely going to fold a huge % of the time, he isn't thinking about your range. (tips if you want to start multitabling, to save decision time)


J9o- We can probably shove this one pretty easily against this type of player, it's near the bottom of my range. Once we check and hit Top pair, we're never folding.

Q4s- This is a fine shove vesus someone who is folding a lot. You said he is passive, which is correct. However against players like this, they tend to be "calling stations". What this usually means is that they will pick up hands like KQ KT and just call, so their calling range is usually somewhere between 25-30% of hands. If they are calling that wide, then they are actually pretty close to having a good profitable calling range versus wide shovers.

Having said that, i think this Q4s shove is totally standard. Suited anythings have so much value, though it's again toward the bottom of my range. ( i might shove Q2s, but fold Q6offsuit) for example.



I know there are more hands, but i don't have the time to go through them all, sorry.
 
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ye well played all round really

but as tangerine said on table 2 you said you wanted to show aggression so just raise it up when he limps to you pre (especially as he already folded once before after you raised his limp)

put pressure on him heads up on dry flops too, dont let him see free cards
 
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Sorry for taking so long to reply.

Heh it sounds like you're playing with some chips there - maybe it's just the poker site :p

Interesting payout structure, not very typical for a SNG. Makes things interesting.

Now, with AQs - I'm not opposed to limping this in a multi-way pot, because it conceals the strength of our hand so we might get paid off a little better, and if we miss, we can get away cheap. I'm not as much of a fan of raising because with two people already voluntarily entering the pot, our c-bet on the flop is going to be less successful and is going to cost more chips (i.e. the pot is bigger, so your c-bet is going to be bigger).

The AK hand looks good, I would get my money in there also.

With 87s, normally I might say a complete is okay but with a faster blind increase and shorter starting stacks I think a fold is much better.

Folding A7 there was fine imo.

Hmmm, is your HUD lined up with the right players? It looked like it might be mixed up, from the hand where two players got knocked out.

I think the KQs shove is fine, since you're on the BTN, you only have 11bb's and the structure is so fast.

Folding QJ under the gun is what I'd do too.

Good shove with K7s there imo.

I'm usually shoving there with the Q4s too. It's gonna depend on how wide he's calling, but generally our hand is definitely too good to fold.

Maybe could have shoved the flop with 87 there, but it could probably go either way.

Good shove with K5.

I'm not sure it's an auto-ship with KJ there, I'll take another look at it later.

I'd call with A7 also.

That times it's a good push with KJ, the effective stacks are much smaller.

Good shove with T8s.

I don't think I'm betting that 73 there, he calls with a ton of hands and you have pretty much no chance of winning the pot at showdown. Maybe shove but never just bet with your stack size.

Yup, auto-ship with A3.

Good shove with ATs.

Q8 definitely would have been a shove if it was folded to you. You should be shoving pretty much any two in a bvb situation at this point, unless he starts to adjust.

I don't know if you can fold that KJ there, I mean he hasn't been very aggressive up to this point, but you're getting great odds and have a pretty above average hand.

Woohoo! We win the first one.

I wasn't sure at first with the AKs there, but you would have to lose to both opponents in order to not make the money, so worst case there you would have min-cashed, which isn't a terrible result, cause if we win we're in a dominating position.

Now that the effective stacks are really low you can start to shove very wide - do you have a copy of the NASH heads-up chart? That may help, although it's made for optimal play and our opponent likely isn't playing optimally, he's probably too tight.

Good shove with Q4.

I love when 8 high wins!

Gotta push that 96 imo.

Push the J5!

Just shove the flop in that 95 hand. Bad result :(

All in all not bad!
 
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