Variance in limping premium hands preflop. Need tips/advices

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I rarely do it. I may do it if I'm early in a tournament and the blinds mean nothing. I did it once in a live 2/5 game with KK. I knew the big stack to my left would raise. He always did and since it was his button I was certain he would. His buddy called. I went all in and they both called. Fortunately they held. But this really is an aberration. 99% of the time I raise to isolate a single player. Multiway pots seriously reduce the chance of winning.
 
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There is really no need to limp in when you have a strong starting hand. Raising builds up the pot so you get more value for you hand and it thins the field. The less players you're against, the more likely your hand will hold.

The first hand was a bad example since AK and KK are getting the money in preflop regardless of who raises first. The 2nd hand is just an example of what happens you let players see cheap/free flops.
 
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Don't limp premium, that hands is strong but with a lot of people we lost equity, so i need to raise to inject chips in the pot and reduce the field of the hand... by limping u increase the chance tot ake a bad beat...
 
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Limping...

Limping in always seems to bite me in the ass, Its almost as if your asking the to poker gods to screw you over. I like to show strength when I play. Playing the weak hand looking for a trap seems to backfire more often than bringing in long-term possessive results
 
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It all depends on the tournament you are playing and the stage. Usually at the beginning of the tournament I try not to raise card below KK, because the fish does not behave appropriately and in 80 cases, it triggered a push on their part. But in the middle stage and then clearly raising 3bet above. Do can not be so one-sided to say the right thing because necessary to take into account the depth of the yours stack, of his opponent and his range of hands and expectation.
 
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a terrible game, you should always raise here pre-flop. This is especially the case when playing against passive players. This is because you can’t build a pot without putting in the money yourself. Passive players don’t like to bet. You have to do it for them.
 
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I noticed somebody above said they limp early in a tournament.
Personally I prefer later in a tournament.

Either could be right or wrong. You obviously have to expect beats and be ready to ditch a hand when the board pairs on the flop and your premium hand looks like it could have been chopped.

One benefit to doing it earlier is less to lose and the play skill is softer so your opponent wont expect traps.
The benefit later is obviously larger rewarding pots.
 
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Raise at least 4 bb to isolate small pair and speculative hands.
 
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the only time you want to limp in is if some maniac is shoving ATC or raising wildly. that's about it really.

THe other time you might want to limp a monster is BVB when the BB is raising you alot when you limp on them, so limping to trap is a great idea then also.
 
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I use to limp them. Sometimes I earn sometimes I bust and sometimes no earn at all.

It depend much on table and players left to confront. No fix strategy since the result is diverse.
 
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For me it was like this: ( ( I do not understand why is that KK was delivered opponent A10 flop jq9 turn 8 river 5 and you can Makola I am very unfortunate Latest even with AA do not come in ever this would be the variance do not understand and that is how long it takes ?
 
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In competitive games, limping is a sign of weakness. Always try to get limpers out of the hand, very dangerous, they can hit and win with crap to marginal hands.

Besides, pre flop betting is a wager on your holding.
 
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maybe from utg on an aggressive table but thats it
 
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In competitive games, limping is a sign of weakness. Always try to get limpers out of the hand, very dangerous, they can hit and win with crap to marginal hands.

Besides, pre flop betting is a wager on your holding.


Appearing weak is not always a bad thing in poker...
 
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