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Hey playaz,
I wanted to start a live thread about tournament poker. Im not the most qualified person but i play my tournies here and there and have developed a little skill.
Im going to write down in a few points some of the do's and dont's that i like to use when playing tournies. If anyone agrees with these or disagrees with any or wants to share with us some of their tips. Feel free. Im trying to get some feedback as to if im playing them correctly or if someone can give me some advie that may be different from what im about to say.
My ideal tournament strategy is to play VERY TIGHT at the beginning. why raise with anything but premium? there are no blinds worth stealing and the only thing you will accomplish is to lose your stack bit by bit by playing weaker marginal hands. When you do finally catch a hand to make your first double up, you dont get the full amount of chips that you should have gotten because you have slowly bleeded chips by playing these marginal hands.
I like to start stealing blinds when the level reaches to somewhere around 75-150. thats where the fun begins.(im using the standard 3000 chips starting stack 10 minute blinds tournies on stars as reference).
At this point and on its good to be aggressive. 3 bet in position if the raise comes from any position after middle and you think villain may be trying to steal. dont flat raises when "IN" position. either 3bet or fold. Your going to probably call a cbet anyways right? i mean if your willing to call a preflop rasise ,then your most probably willing on calling a Cbet regardless of the flop right?( in most cases)
So why not just 3 bet and take initiavie in the hand. If you dont do this you will just have to call his Cbet, when you can dictate as to whether you want to see a free turn card or not.
3betting preflop does alot more than build up the pot. It also allows you to get a "feel" as to where villain is and also allows you to see more streets of cards for cheaper. Because if you devide the extra amount of money you used to 3 bet by the two streets your probably going to see for free assuming you opponent doesnt donk flop, which in most cases he doesnt(if he flats 3bet),and you decide to check behind,then you will see it is a profitable and smart move to use.
Dont flat call big bets Out of position. And dont play marginal hands out of position. this will usually lead to you bleeding chips or having to make hero calls and weak plays. Avoid it. esp from OOP.
Dont turn into a chicken if the player to your left is playing back at you from the blinds when your making button raises. Ok so you make a button steal attempt and you get 3 bet or 3bet shoved. Let it go if the bet is too big and your hand isnt as good. Dont use position as an excuse to play absolute garbage and commit yourself with marginal hands. If you think your hand is better than his,then 4 bet shove,even if your deep in the tourney. Dont fold to any agression from the blinds and be bullied out of stealing because without stealing blinds,most of the time you will not be able to make it as deep as you might want to make it.
On the other hand if, villain is to your right and is on the button dont be afraid to 3 bet shove more than 25 BB deep.Assuming villain is to. He is as scarred as losing his stack as you are so i dont understand why we allow them to intimidate us. Fight back when its blind versus blind and you have an above average hand. Just keep in mind villains tendancies when making such plays and be sure you are doing it at the right time with the right villain and of course, with the right starting hand.
Preflop war is, HUGE in late stage tournies and something that requires alot of attention and studying.
when you get beyond the bubble, be willing to 4 bet any hand you raise,and call a shove. cause at this point things start to get a lil crazy. Dont raise with the intention to fold ever. If you have to fold pre ,make there be a good reason. Never raise with the intent to fold. Because the part of the tourney that is right after the bubble is the first stage into showing who will go busto soon and who will make it deep. After a double up at this point, we are usually 40+ BBdeep and want to tigthen up again.
In my opinion after the bubble there are waves of action we kinda have to go through. It kinda goes like this: double up,saiiiiil, double up saiiiiiiil.
Anyways these are just some tips that im sure everyone knows but i felt like typing a few ideas to remind myself and maybe share with some others that might not know them.
If you have anything you agree with or disagree with or want to add. Lets hear about it.
I wanted to start a live thread about tournament poker. Im not the most qualified person but i play my tournies here and there and have developed a little skill.
Im going to write down in a few points some of the do's and dont's that i like to use when playing tournies. If anyone agrees with these or disagrees with any or wants to share with us some of their tips. Feel free. Im trying to get some feedback as to if im playing them correctly or if someone can give me some advie that may be different from what im about to say.
My ideal tournament strategy is to play VERY TIGHT at the beginning. why raise with anything but premium? there are no blinds worth stealing and the only thing you will accomplish is to lose your stack bit by bit by playing weaker marginal hands. When you do finally catch a hand to make your first double up, you dont get the full amount of chips that you should have gotten because you have slowly bleeded chips by playing these marginal hands.
I like to start stealing blinds when the level reaches to somewhere around 75-150. thats where the fun begins.(im using the standard 3000 chips starting stack 10 minute blinds tournies on stars as reference).
At this point and on its good to be aggressive. 3 bet in position if the raise comes from any position after middle and you think villain may be trying to steal. dont flat raises when "IN" position. either 3bet or fold. Your going to probably call a cbet anyways right? i mean if your willing to call a preflop rasise ,then your most probably willing on calling a Cbet regardless of the flop right?( in most cases)
So why not just 3 bet and take initiavie in the hand. If you dont do this you will just have to call his Cbet, when you can dictate as to whether you want to see a free turn card or not.
3betting preflop does alot more than build up the pot. It also allows you to get a "feel" as to where villain is and also allows you to see more streets of cards for cheaper. Because if you devide the extra amount of money you used to 3 bet by the two streets your probably going to see for free assuming you opponent doesnt donk flop, which in most cases he doesnt(if he flats 3bet),and you decide to check behind,then you will see it is a profitable and smart move to use.
Dont flat call big bets Out of position. And dont play marginal hands out of position. this will usually lead to you bleeding chips or having to make hero calls and weak plays. Avoid it. esp from OOP.
Dont turn into a chicken if the player to your left is playing back at you from the blinds when your making button raises. Ok so you make a button steal attempt and you get 3 bet or 3bet shoved. Let it go if the bet is too big and your hand isnt as good. Dont use position as an excuse to play absolute garbage and commit yourself with marginal hands. If you think your hand is better than his,then 4 bet shove,even if your deep in the tourney. Dont fold to any agression from the blinds and be bullied out of stealing because without stealing blinds,most of the time you will not be able to make it as deep as you might want to make it.
On the other hand if, villain is to your right and is on the button dont be afraid to 3 bet shove more than 25 BB deep.Assuming villain is to. He is as scarred as losing his stack as you are so i dont understand why we allow them to intimidate us. Fight back when its blind versus blind and you have an above average hand. Just keep in mind villains tendancies when making such plays and be sure you are doing it at the right time with the right villain and of course, with the right starting hand.
Preflop war is, HUGE in late stage tournies and something that requires alot of attention and studying.
when you get beyond the bubble, be willing to 4 bet any hand you raise,and call a shove. cause at this point things start to get a lil crazy. Dont raise with the intention to fold ever. If you have to fold pre ,make there be a good reason. Never raise with the intent to fold. Because the part of the tourney that is right after the bubble is the first stage into showing who will go busto soon and who will make it deep. After a double up at this point, we are usually 40+ BBdeep and want to tigthen up again.
In my opinion after the bubble there are waves of action we kinda have to go through. It kinda goes like this: double up,saiiiiil, double up saiiiiiiil.
Anyways these are just some tips that im sure everyone knows but i felt like typing a few ideas to remind myself and maybe share with some others that might not know them.
If you have anything you agree with or disagree with or want to add. Lets hear about it.
