Tournament aggression, when to slow down.

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For the last couple of months, I have been experimenting with pre-flop and post-flop aggression.
I have had some positive in game results pertaining to increased chip stack early on, but have a problem maintaining that chip stack.
My Question is, When do we slow down? 50/40/30BBs or higher?
 
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For the last couple of months, I have been experimenting with pre-flop and post-flop aggression.
I have had some positive in game results pertaining to increased chip stack early on, but have a problem maintaining that chip stack.
My Question is, When do we slow down? 50/40/30BBs or higher?
When should we be widening/narrowing our range?
 
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I tighten up my range approx when I have 25bbs and I may open some marginal hands with 25bbs in late position and always takings into consideration how good or bad are the players in the blinds.

I don't know how +ev is to be aggressive in the whole tournament because after a certain point your opponents will try to fight back. The deeper you are in a MTT the tougher opponents you need to confront with.So you need to pick up your aggression spots more carefully!

I try to be aggressive selectively and not in the whole tournament no matter how many bbs I have behind.That way works for me but you need to find what makes you run better after all. Best of luck!
 
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For the last couple of months, I have been experimenting with pre-flop and post-flop aggression.
I have had some positive in game results pertaining to increased chip stack early on, but have a problem maintaining that chip stack.
My Question is, When do we slow down? 50/40/30BBs or higher?

Keep doing whatever you are doing. Ideally I find that I hang around 20-30 BB and it keeps me in the game. If your 30-40 I say keep up the TAG. Over 40 you should have a pretty open range and opening a lot of pots. You'll know when you get push back that the other opponent will have a big hand.
 
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I don't think agression is the case in early tournament phase. U can be faced with "lottery-player" which is simply ignoring his cards and position opening with trash that can win eventually taking ur stack. And than. What are 30-50 BBs? Ten minute later u have less quantity in this measure. There is need to increase ur stack permanently so u can be fair in tournament.

As for me, i have comfortable feeling about my tournament stack when it is not less than 30-40 BB. But it is not the case of stopping agression. I use it on medium phase of tourney.
 
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I don't think agression is the case in early tournament phase. U can be faced with "lottery-player" which is simply ignoring his cards and position opening with trash that can win eventually taking ur stack. And than. What are 30-50 BBs? Ten minute later u have less quantity in this measure. There is need to increase ur stack permanently so u can be fair in tournament.

As for me, i have comfortable feeling about my tournament stack when it is not less than 30-40 BB. But it is not the case of stopping agression. I use it on medium phase of tourney.
In the early phases of a tournament I'm aggressive but not loose, I may lose against a lottery player often, just because there are so many in the micros, but do win against those types also.
There are games where I have been knocked out by a complete donkey and others where I have won against 3+ donkeys in one hand.

And it seems the answer to my question has been answered.

In regards to being played back at, I do expect that to happen but not really until I get deeper in the tournament, the noobs in these micros have problems with something as little as hand selection. :)
 
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At the beginning of the tournament I try to play calmly. Of course it all depends on the opponents, if there is a fish that put everything I can and play aggressively. Well, middle and late part of the tournament playing quietly and aggressively.
 
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I also love the fish but he sometimes get carried away and lose so everything to fish the elite there )
 
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keep playing positions and read the table. many times its not the stack getting smaller, but the blinds getting higher. if you are getting bad cards, chances are, other players are too. try to take easy pots, and play monsters aggressively.
 
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I tighten up my range approx when I have 25bbs and I may open some marginal hands with 25bbs in late position and always takings into consideration how good or bad are the players in the blinds.

I don't know how +ev is to be aggressive in the whole tournament because after a certain point your opponents will try to fight back. The deeper you are in a MTT the tougher opponents you need to confront with.So you need to pick up your aggression spots more carefully!

I try to be aggressive selectively and not in the whole tournament no matter how many bbs I have behind.That way works for me but you need to find what makes you run better after all. Best of luck!

It's the opposite. You should open up your range and be more aggressive when you are below the 30 BB mark. The blinds become way too attractive.

I'd say LAG from 5-30 BB, TAG from 30-80BB, than LAG again 80 BB+
 
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So I have to play LAG only from late position? Help us out I Don't know which strategy is better for this situation. If I open more widely and I face a 3bet then what? I believed that is -ev playing that way. Can you enlight me here?
 
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depends on how my table is playing and my chip stack, huds help a ton. keeping in mind how players are adjusting/not adjusting to payjumps/bubble is super important as well
 
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I do not think that the aggregation is good for an early stage of a tournament, increasing your speed depends on your position the amount of your stad and your opponents
 
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Position is important, but generally starting out tight and slowly getting more and more aggressive as the tournament progresses, especially when near the bubble, is a good strategy
 
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Surely in a flush or straight draw and for sure in a straght flush draw or when the board is pair. Thats my advise.
 
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I think It's best to slow down when you know the players around you are desperate and they might make calls that they usually wouldn't. I know this to be particularly true for SnG tournaments, Since the blinds go up at a faster rate. Now sure, part of winning chips is hoping to get our opponents to make bad calls. But when players are desperate to double up just so they can be more comfortable facing the high blinds, They may three bet you all in. And then we figure it's only a small fraction of my stack, I have a decent hand, and I'm already committed after attempting to steal the blinds in the first place. One thing leads to another and we end up doubling up a couple of opponents, then our stacks become average instead of dominant.
 
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Read Harrington on Holdem Vol I. That will give a great idea on when / where / and how to use aggressiveness. He breaks it down using his "M". But you can easily find this online (youtube) and it will break down different stack vs blind...

Once your stack is 15-20bbs, you are in a zone where you need to be looking for a hand to double up with (but pick the right opponent to do this against) or look for spots to 3b shove vs people opening too wide.

But other than that... Play well, and run better!!!
 
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i guess u have to slow down against opponents behave of pattern, when he is going to reraise when he is tight when he is agressive all those factors could give good tip to bet against him, and the other case also depends on your hand if you have nuts why not bet agrressively . However it also depends what your opponent got , most time he will have nothing but he will take your hand by bluff. But if he is confident raises and insta calls means he got somehting most of the cases. Its difficult cause the case dealer shows what card on turn and river, opportunity of luckkiness could change dramatically , in that cases you should give up only .
 
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Honestly, you need to find something that's comfortable and works for you. I base my play more so off position and player types.
 
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My strategy ia that at the beginning of the tournament I try to play calmly. Of course it all depends on every new game , so , if there is a fish that put everything I can and play aggressively. Well, middle and late part of the tournament I try to play quietly and not very aggressively.
 
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Slow down when people are starting to trap you. You want to use select aggression. And select by your opponents. If you opponent is weak and tight you should be more aggressive. If the tight player starts calling your bets, you need to slow down.
 
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I think It's best to slow down when you know the players around you are desperate and they might make calls that they usually wouldn't. I know this to be particularly true for SnG tournaments, Since the blinds go up at a faster rate. Now sure, part of winning chips is hoping to get our opponents to make bad calls. But when players are desperate to double up just so they can be more comfortable facing the high blinds, They may three bet you all in. And then we figure it's only a small fraction of my stack, I have a decent hand, and I'm already committed after attempting to steal the blinds in the first place. One thing leads to another and we end up doubling up a couple of opponents, then our stacks become average instead of dominant.

Well this is exactly my case... I tend to be more-less aggresive in the start of a MTT and I usually can make some profit, but later on I tend to loosen up WAY too much and I end up losing parts of my stack to lowstack players, which then leads to me being one of them... I need to work on this, aggresion is fine until some point... My hero calling is always causing trouble to me :/
 
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