too tight in late stages?

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Greetings everyone!


This is my first post here at cardschat, I've been reading for a while but a topic recently came up that I'd like everyone's opinion on.

The past two days I've placed 104th and 107th in FT's Daily Dollar Tournament. Both places earned me a mere $8.50 for about 5 hours of play. Both times I've been eliminated it wasn't due to any bad beats but I've simply gotten so short stacked that I have to pick a hand and go with it.


As the blinds get higher with about 300 people left (of the usual 9,000 starting field) I'm average stacked, and I find myself folding hands like AJo to UTG raisers, folding PP under 6's instead of maybe raising them up, and I don't gamble as liberally with draws as I do earlier in the tournament. My gut instinct tells me that I'm playing a bit too tight with the hopes that I'll make it to the $11 payoff placement. I feel like in order to have a shot at the final table and perhaps the $1,599 first place prize, I need to loosen up a bit and strive for a bigger stack. If I get knocked out and only make $4 then what's the difference if I hold on to make $8.50?

Any thoughts on what I could do to get deeper in this tournament?
 
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By gambling on draws, do you mean you are folding when you are getting the right odds to chase? if so that is definatly wrong.. Maybe you aren't stealing blinds enough from the button, or if you are maybe your raises are too big meaning they need to work almost every time for you to earn money. There are many potential problems but the more experience you get the better.. Btw I am not a great MTT player so you will probably get better advice from better players :)

Try posting some of these hands where you feel you are going wrong in the hand analysis section, or even the ones you think you played well.
 
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The problem I find with this part of the tourney is that there are a lot of ai shoves from med to short stacks trying to double up. Which usually coincides with me going card dead-so I'm in the same boat as you. Will be interested in others advice.
 
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I have the same problem. I can cash in about 65% of the events I play but have a problem close to the end. I am good at final tables but getting there can be an issue.
 
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The problem I find with this part of the tourney is that there are a lot of ai shoves from med to short stacks trying to double up. Which usually coincides with me going card dead-so I'm in the same boat as you. Will be interested in others advice.

If you see some shortstacks going in quite often, or 3-bet shoving try and put them on a range, and if it is wide you can usually call wide, you need to take some of these chances to try and chip up, in OP it seems like he is going to get as far into the tourney as possible rather than try to win it (that doesnt make much sense but i'm basically trying to say that he wants to win the small amount at each level in the money rather than go for the FT..) in order to go for the final table you DO have to take risks, and call shoves if they are half of your stack with hands like QJ which feels quite wrong. (I might be way off here, as I have said I am not a great player)

Possibly players are missing the chance to resteal, which is a very important strategy, also restealing from the blinds can often lead to more walkthroughs, as players can become afraid of stealing your blinds, which is never bad.

I am waiting for some good advice from players like KC and pokero
 
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TBH, I'm never calling off half my stack with QJ, but thats beside the point. What might help is getting in earlier when you still have some fold equity. If you're waiting till you're down to 6or7 BBs to shove that AJ then maybe shove it with 15. You're more likely to get folds from 99 or AQ then. Also, it becomes more important to take notice of the table- is it tight or loose- and adjust accordingly. Find the nit players and steal steal steal.

I'm no MTT pro and no doubt theres better advice out there but I hope this helps. Also consider playing your draws aggressively rather than check calling off your stack till you miss.
 
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I didn't read any of the replies, and I haven't played MTT's in a while, but I have run pretty deep into 10k+ field tourneys (deepest in DD was 16th). The play you are talking about is why others strive. You are "waiting" for the next pay out? Well this is when people play a little more aggressive and abuse your style of play. Collecting blinds at this level a very important way to stay towards the top of the leader board.

Also, if you are waiting to get under 10 BB to push a playable hand, maybe start doing it at 15-18 BB. You may get bad beats, or a player may wake up with aces, but you cannot afford to blind yourself down to a stop where someone is calling with ATC.

I would say you need to play your late position stronger (especially the button) and try your best not to play timid. GL
 
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anything ace at that stage with low chips you would have to go all in or follow phil gordons ace x rule. The daily dollar is a bad tourney because its pretty much a donkfest with a lot of idiots.
 
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