Tips for late tournament post flop play???

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Hello everyone! I am relatively new to the game, and brand new to cards chat. I have been playing moderately for only about 2 years now, but have had decent success, at least I feel! ;)

At my local casino, they have tournaments on the weekends, which usually range from 25-50 people. More often than not, I find myself in the middle of the pack at the final table. But, once we get down to 6 or less players and the blinds get higher and higher, I find myself getting outplayed and outgunned post flop from the more experienced players. Not sure if it is because they know I am not strong in these situations and are just pushing me around or what! I would really appreciate any tips you guys have for hanging with the big dogs, thanks in advance!
 
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it really depends so much on the tournament structure and stack sizes in comparison to the blinds. so if your stack size is below 20 times the big blind (20bb) you should be only entering the pot if youre prepared to put all of your chips in on that hand... and because with less than 20bb you are only entering the pot prepared to put all your chips in then the optimal play is just to go all in preflop in order to get the maximum fold equity. take some time to study a push/fold chart so you can learn what ranges to push all in. remember that you should still be calling all ins very tight and dont 3bet shove with the same range as you would open shove.. playing this way eliminates postflop mistakes (the biggest postflop mistake being not having enough chips left in your stack to navigate postflop)
 
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from the middle of the tournament it is necessary to observe the difference in the leader of his stack and stack 4 times *270 thousand 850 thousand leader. The final is going to play a 3-bet (push) fold, 3-bet (call)-1/2pot. Use only a bluff on the flop) play against one opponent.
 
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Post flop you're going to get owned if you're making mistakes preflop. Play tight in early position and especially the blinds, loosen up and be aggressive in late positions to maintain your stack or chip up slowly.

It's always better to be betting rather than calling.

In most like tournaments there shouldn't be much post flop play at all late due to usual short effective stacks.
 
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Try to 3bet them or push allin with a at least middle pair. Then they will
See that you can play back
 
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You don't want to be calling on the final table unless you have pretty close to the nuts, so don't get involved with pots unless you are ready to put all your chips in the middle. You also probably are missing the opportunity to pick up some small pots when you can open them and steal the blinds. People tend to tighten up ITM so you can take a stab at stealing the blinds a bit wider than you would earlier in the tournament. Remember that if you can steal the blinds once per rotation and don't get involved in any other pots, you're guaranteed to survive and work your way up the payouts
 
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Hello everyone! I am relatively new to the game, and brand new to cards chat. I have been playing moderately for only about 2 years now, but have had decent success, at least I feel! ;)

At my local casino, they have tournaments on the weekends, which usually range from 25-50 people. More often than not, I find myself in the middle of the pack at the final table. But, once we get down to 6 or less players and the blinds get higher and higher, I find myself getting outplayed and outgunned post flop from the more experienced players. Not sure if it is because they know I am not strong in these situations and are just pushing me around or what! I would really appreciate any tips you guys have for hanging with the big dogs, thanks in advance!

25-50 people, are we to assume that payouts are for the top 3-5 players. Your being bullied for the money bubble it sounds like to me. Don't be scared to shove back. Most time in tournaments when you get to the end and near the bubble all you have is fold or shove stacks. You'll have between 15-25BB, if your stack is north of 20 BB then you maybe ok for a few levels. If your stack is 15BB or less then pick a had and shove. Pocket pairs and Broadway cards and any AX. The better the hand the better your chances. Try to avoid the big stack at the table if possible. Also make sure you have a wide enough hand range to open with.
 
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You don't want to be calling on the final table unless you have pretty close to the nuts, so don't get involved with pots unless you are ready to put all your chips in the middle. You also probably are missing the opportunity to pick up some small pots when you can open them and steal the blinds. People tend to tighten up ITM so you can take a stab at stealing the blinds a bit wider than you would earlier in the tournament. Remember that if you can steal the blinds once per rotation and don't get involved in any other pots, you're guaranteed to survive and work your way up the payouts

In this size tournament one is just trying to cash. I don't know where you play but I guarantee that it always ends in a chop. There is no "moving up in payouts" at this level. This is for lager fields and buy-ins. Just work on your game and take mental notes. Go home and replay as many hands your head you can. This tournaments always have the same players week in and week out so you should get to know them fairly well.
 
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position is really really important in short stacked situations. also, as your number of bb decreases, you'll lose a significant amount of your edge. Its important to be aggressive, while still maintaining good bluffing frequencies. Know that, when in position, you can bully shorter stacked players to collect blinds. If you're struggling post flop, try to think back to preflop and/or earlier streets in an attempt to define their range. Does their story make sense? whatve have you seen them play before? their bet sizings? how much do they have behind? Could they be drawing to something? What are your implied odds when you hit a draw? etc.
 
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use a bluff on the flop gives the result.but sometimes to fall need:)
 
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I also agree, that it's always better to be betting rather than calling.
 
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watch some late game videos, work on your icm, and maybe practice your short blind play by playing some hyper sngs
 
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Hello everyone! I am relatively new to the game, and brand new to cards chat. I have been playing moderately for only about 2 years now, but have had decent success, at least I feel! ;)

At my local casino, they have tournaments on the weekends, which usually range from 25-50 people. More often than not, I find myself in the middle of the pack at the final table. But, once we get down to 6 or less players and the blinds get higher and higher, I find myself getting outplayed and outgunned post flop from the more experienced players. Not sure if it is because they know I am not strong in these situations and are just pushing me around or what! I would really appreciate any tips you guys have for hanging with the big dogs, thanks in advance!

if you are in the middle of the pack on final table, it sounds to me that you are getting possibly squeezed on, meaning you are opening and guy jams (whilst looking at JTo). Your stack isn't enough to open fold with. I would suggest this on your next trip to the final table with middie stack. If you don't have enough for an open fold, consider the squeeze play with 20 to 25bb. When in position (button, cutoff or high jack even). If a guy opens Early position, Jam with cards that you were open folding with. Jam with premium. Jam is better than opens with final table daily tourney stacks you have.

I will warn, not do this into chip lead, you want to do this on the shorts or middie stacks. It is better to be the first jammer than the first opener at the final table daily stages if you are in the 20 to 25bb range.

Chow!

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