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How many times poker disciplines will last. I think all disciplines eventually become tournament poker or gambling. I mean online poker.

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Poker is dying for years and it still alive. You still can make alot of money. Study and hard grind that's it.
 
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High stakes online cash games are already a desert, but micro stakes games of all kinds are still totally alive. There are still a lot of people playing online poker for fun with absolutely minimal skills. They are just playing for 5 dollars at a time rather than 500 or 5000.
 
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High stakes online cash games are already a desert, but micro stakes games of all kinds are still totally alive. There are still a lot of people playing online poker for fun with absolutely minimal skills. They are just playing for 5 dollars at a time rather than 500 or 5000.


Another indication that online poker is still alive >>> today there are higher stakes MTT's running that there ever has been before with stakes even getting higher in some cases (ie. the $25k buyin Blade series).
 
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Poker is dying for years and it still alive. You still can make alot of money. Study and hard grind that's it.



I do not mean the death of poker in general. I'm talking about how poker will become a tournament and disciplines will become completly for gambling like spin'n'go flash.
 
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I do not mean the death of poker in general. I'm talking about how poker will become a tournament and disciplines will become completly for gambling like spin'n'go flash.


Online cash games might not be, what they once were, but they are still alive and breathing. This weekend I saw 1.200 players on the 2NL 6-max Zoom table on Stars, which is about the highest number, I have ever seen.

To be honest poker sites could also do a lot to save cash games by lowering their rake. If I play a large tournament, I pay 10%, when I buy in, and then I can play for hours, sometimes many hours, without paying again. With cash however its 5%, every time a hand goes postflop.

I simply pay way more rake per hour, when I play cash, but I dont win more money on the tables, so its kind of a bad deal. And this for me right now is actually the main reason, why I focus on tournaments. If cash game rake was for instance 3%, it would be quite a different ball-game, but unfortunately that is not the case, and rake-back these days is generally a joke.
 
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Online cash games might not be, what they once were, but they are still alive and breathing. This weekend I saw 1.200 players on the 2NL 6-max Zoom table on Stars, which is about the highest number, I have ever seen.

To be honest poker sites could also do a lot to save cash games by lowering their rake. If I play a large tournament, I pay 10%, when I buy in, and then I can play for hours, sometimes many hours, without paying again. With cash however its 5%, every time a hand goes postflop.

I simply pay way more rake per hour, when I play cash, but I dont win more money on the tables, so its kind of a bad deal. And this for me right now is actually the main reason, why I focus on tournaments. If cash game rake was for instance 3%, it would be quite a different ball-game, but unfortunately that is not the case, and rake-back these days is generally a joke.


Yes, this limit is all that can be meant by gambling :) I think 1-3% of these 1200 regulary play pokler. I'm not talking abiut the love of poker and poker as a source of income.
And about the fact that it all comes down to the casino method, where recreational players will go by the method of push/fold poker, like tempest and so on.
 
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Poker will live forever.



Well, the fact that in the next century they will play traditional Hold'em, it is difficult for me to imagine. :)

It's all about online poker.
 
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And about the fact that it all comes down to the casino method, where recreational players will go by the method of push/fold poker, like tempest and so on.

I am not quite so pessimistic about it. After a while a game like Tempest might become monotone even for recreational players. A format like Spins has been available for many year already, but you still see plenty of recreational players in more traditional tournaments, at least up to a certain buyin.
 
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I am not quite so pessimistic about it. After a while a game like Tempest might become monotone even for recreational players. A format like Spins has been available for many year already, but you still see plenty of recreational players in more traditional tournaments, at least up to a certain buyin.


Yes, no doubt it is not about utopia, Nevertheless, 3 years ago there was spin and go, and immediately there is tempest and spin and go flash.
 
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I play exclusively the lowest stakes cash games the site allows. No zoom. No sit and go unless I get tickets. I play only to amuse myself. I can't invest that much time in a tournament any more. My site of choice was Coral but that is now history since they became a skin of party poker. Sooner or later there will not be many options left for playing poker online.
 
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I dont know what the future will bring but poker wont die. Hopefully the governments will stop ruining the game we love so it can grow again.
 
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Hopefully the governments will stop ruining the game we love so it can grow again.

That is probably the least likely thing to happen unfortunately. For starters there seem to be extremely limited understanding in governments about the fact, that online poker need a large global player pool and not fragmentated national player pools.

You cant run a Sunday Million only for players in Michigan or portugal, but governments simply dont get that. All they are focused on is to try and collect tax revenue from something, they see as unproductive gambling.
 
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online poker is dying in the form in which it is now, I want to believe that soon we will come up with something intellectual and gambling
 
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How many times poker disciplines will last. I think all disciplines eventually become tournament poker or gambling. I mean online poker.

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Poker will live, the excitement and thirst for "easy" money will always keep it afloat, although, of course, it will never become an Olympic discipline
 
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