Tight is right?

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hi, im a new poker player, new but a good one.. (im a tournament fighting gamer) i need some help for be a winner.. so.. i have a question: i know, tight is right.. but, maniac is right too? i like that style for tournaments
 
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Both can be right. To be the best pokerplayer you have to mix up your game. That makes it hard for your opponents to know what you are doing.

In general, in the beginning you can better play tight, because other players will be lose, because they have such big stack in front of them in comperance with the blinds). And later you have to lose it up, because the other players have to play tight from then on because their stack is now a lot smaller.

If you reach the bubble possition you have to chose, if you lose it up. You will have a chanche to become first (make lots of profit with your chips, because the others will play tight.) But you can also chose to be tight even at the bubble and hope that someone else will go out first. You have to know that most of the money is for the first place. The other players get a lot less in money.

I recomment to mix it up because otherwise no one will call whenever you have good cards as a tight player.
And everyone will start to call when you have marginal hands whenever you are playing lose (like a maniac).

It can be sometimes hard to find the right moment to switch from style, but after some time it will be all fine.
 
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Best tight early to avoid maniacs, unless you have the hand to beat them

Middle, closer to bubble - looser and target is not the low stacks, who will want to make ground or be out, but middle stacks who are looking to get enough to beat the bubble.

Near the bubble - depends how you read others.

Once past the bubble then sensible play, early often rough as some on lower stacks have made money and want to go for broke. Again play very good hands positive.

Later then just pure sensible play - you should know by then what the others are planning.
 
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Experience will make you good in all aspects of the game, poker is very unpredictable and you have to play the board good. Loose or tight the board generally predicts the winner
 
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Basically, the best style is the tight aggressive? i know.. sometimes i can play loose ok but, following the line of a tight agressive, can defeat a pro player?
 
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If you are still new to the game i would definitly reccomend you tight play.
Once you get the right feeling of the game and understand the game dynamics - you should start to mix it up.

One thing is sure - you never want your game to be easy predictable.
 
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I can say for sure tight is more difficult to play. Especially when you think you have a decent hand and someone comes over you. Now as a tight player I would fold, but then again because I've been playing tight my stack is low, and it's early in tournament so I don't want to go out. So I bail, which will never get chips. Plus everyone recognizes tight players and are more likely to top you knowing you will bail. Rough way to go....
 
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I think, playing speed(in table you are sitting) is involved in players style.
I'm typical nit.There is also a time less than participation rate less than 10%.
But participation rate is low ,some opponents find out my leak and seems easy my play style. In the money, not too good ranking. Including element of luck.
I played KO poker, get many stacks, but nobody defeat・・・.
And one time all in bust me (Bad beats by big stack opponents)
What do you think ?
Do you think AA makes usually big pods?

Tight is not usually right. Should thinking and desire how I get a big pod in
play. In a good time ,good cards comes is OK. But that's not true.

I tried all hands fold in tournament and counting time spent, hands times
and the remaining ranking.
(I remembered was there pockets pair not comes 60 hands lol.)

If for such a thing you do,not win. Have to use weak start hands.
(Ax all in ,draw bluff and so on.)
To learn mix up and avoid confused all in.
But confused ideas and mix -up is looks paper thin.

I think bullish attack makes good good remaining and I knew.

But I can't.Because I'm chicken and thinking becomes somehow it may remain.
In tournament 70% will lose. Consider Buy-in and Winning percentage.
Thinking play styles and tournament type is important.
You may choose your style.

If your nuts hands lose draw hands at river, There is nothing you can do
But if you play cash game, it makes you super tilt.
Tournament is prepayment.That goes forward without fear!

I'm sorry for not being helpful.:)
 
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tight is right.. but, maniac is right too? i like that style for tournaments
Maniacs rely on luck, and surprise. I often see maniacs clean up early on, only to be crushed later by good, tight, patient players. Everyone at the table is watching and waiting for just the right hand to take down the maniac. Maniacs tend not to realize when their luck has run out, and go down quickly over a big hand or two. NOTHNG is more satisfying than taking down a maniac.

Ever notice that the number entrants to the cheaper tournaments plunges in the first half hour? The rebuy & add-on tournaments are famous for this. That's because so many maniacs are not having the luck that they rely on.

Yes, tight (and aggressive as/when appropriate) is right.


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Play too tight and you will barely make the bubble........
But on other days, I play very tight, have AK suited, calls a shove... and lost to pocket 5s or something..
I mean , folding all hands and playing just one hand and losing to a table chipleader with small pair
 
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better to play first in a tight style . at least until you can not tell what style and with what hands your opponents play
 
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Tight aggressive is my main strategy.
You play tight but, on position and nice hand, you need to be aggressive, dont hesitate to re rise or go All in! :jd4:
 
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Play too tight and you will barely make the bubble........
But on other days, I play very tight, have AK suited, calls a shove... and lost to pocket 5s or something..
I mean , folding all hands and playing just one hand and losing to a table chipleader with small pair

Friggin AK is the death sentence from me. I NEVER win with AK and get beat all the time by AK. I mean it's such a deal breaker for me that if there is pre-flop raise and I have AK, I fold. I know, I know, it's crazy.
 
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hi, im a new poker player, new but a good one.. (im a tournament fighting gamer) i need some help for be a winner.. so.. i have a question: i know, tight is right.. but, maniac is right too? i like that style for tournaments
 
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The maniac mentality I believe really only has merit on the bubble and even then I think the better strategy is just loose agressive not like overly aggressive still dont play like 27. The best maniacs are people like Gus hansen are just incredible live readers and very good at postflop play which allows them to play this more reckless style.
 
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is not a cake recipe but tight and aggressive is the ideal, it must be the same wherever you go in your hand size tends to be the same game or no game, so you do not become easy to read
 
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Basically, the best style is the tight aggressive? i know.. sometimes i can play loose ok but, following the line of a tight agressive, can defeat a pro player?

"The best style" is your own style, the one you are comfortable with and the more you play, the more it will develop into your unique style.

Ofcourse you can generalise a bit as in tight vs agro,
but find the right balance, no one can stay in it for the long run if they are super tight 100% of the time.
Same goes for people who are always playing very aggressive, eventually they will lose if they don't mix it up.

EDIT: Also, you should take things like position in mind, if no one stops you from limping, a free flop can turn the worst cards into the nut.

Go and figure out what works best for you, and keep at it.

Greetz.
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Dude, get this tip:
You are what you show on the tables. If you have a good image on the table you can give the rules. I prefer to mix my image on the table. Normally I play safe, tight on the early game, after I am more agressive.
 
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is not a cake recipe but tight and aggressive is the ideal, it must be the same wherever you go in your hand size tends to be the same game or no game, so you do not become easy to read

tight aggressive can give me more bluff situations in the table i think..
 
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