Originally Posted by Tom1559
My advise to players is always to avoid turbos and stick with the slower paced games. Poker is a game of patience as well as skill and luck. Too many people are in a hurry and it is my view that turbos force you to chase the game instead of playing poker as it should be played. Also the higher up you go the more time you should take to think.
I have made a killing on the $3 turbos, I don't have much experience at higher level turbos.. so what I'm going to say is to be taken in context of lower level SnG turbos.
Too many people are in a hurry and it is my view that turbos force you to chase the game instead of playing poker as it should be played
You are correct but came to a terrible conclusion. If you have a bunch of players throwing their chips around playing fast and furious... how do we exploit that? Basic theory tells
us that we should play the opposite
of the way the table is playing on average.. tight tables we play loose, loose tables we play tight, right? Trying to beat fish at their own game is a recipe for disaster!
Let's look at some specifics.
1) we have a lot of loose players
2) most of these players are not paying much attention to us
3) they bluff with too high a frequency (that's what they do on TV!!)
4) these players overvalue hands like mad
5) these players tend to mistakenly think they are pot committed when they make a preflop raise
6) these players tighten up like a drum
on the bubble (excluding big stacks who do the exact opposite)
Basic theory tells us that at a loose table we should play tight and at a tight table we should play loose.
#1, we should tighten up
early against these loose players
#2, if they are not paying attention to us they likely will not realize it when we wake up a big hand.. they will consistently pay off our monsters
#3, when players like to bluff a lot, especially given #2, tight-aggressive postflop pay will get our big hands paid off easily, they won't realize they are trying to bluff out a monster
#4, again.. they will pay off our TPTK+ hands frequently showing down TPGK/TPBK
#5, preflop this is great for us.. I don't know how many times I have re-raised all-in preflop with AK/JJ+, got a call and villain shows A9+, KT+, 22+
#6, we switch to LAG as these players tighten up to play tight/passive, winning very valuable blinds increasing our prize equity (see independent chip model). But we play TAG against the big stacks since they are throwing their stacks around and will pay us off.
So.. now can we take these points as a framework and discuss how they relate to non-turbos? I await constructive feedback