STILL no need for bluffing even in $15/7 hyper HUSNGs???

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Having began poker 9 months ago, pretty much whole time spent at 5,10 and 25nl 6max, where tight is right, minimal bluffing is required, I've began to play hyper HUSNGs.

I made the switch due to a frustration in the ABC play and just general style of play (tight and wait for good hands, value bet, don't bluff etc) it was getting boring and I needed a change.

I'd say I'm overly aggressive in ring games.

So why not try heads up. Particularly hypers, where if you're not aggressive enough and play looser, you will inevitably lose due to the stack sizes and blind levels.

But the thing is, even at 7s and 15s (these are beginning to move out of micro levels now, not exactly playing for pennies), the optimal play is still to not bluff... Or certainly seems that way! Villains just can't fold anything. They will call 3bets with trash, so there's literally no point 3bet bluffing or doing it semi wide cos you'll have no idea where you're at when the flop cones.

Whenever I don't bluff or make any moves, I'll get good results, better than when I do play a bit loose and bluffy. So there seems no point in me doing it. I could be really bad at bluffing but for the minute amount of respect my bluffs get I think there's something else going on... Micro's is just full of stations...

What I'm asking is, is it fine to just play ABC even at 7s? I'm bluffing here and there, cbetting, few little stabs at pots. but floating with air and firing multiple barrels just gets me absolutely no where, it's also incredibly tilting to get heroed by middle or bottom pair. Just seems not worth it at all.

I find myself saying to myself when I'm on,a losing session (playing tight),I should be bluffing more, I should be taking pots away from my opponent, I'm not doing enough tricky stuff to win, that's why I'm losing. But in reality it's best to just value bet and wait for hands, just like freaking 6max micro's...

What's your playstyle at hyper HUSNGs??
 
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Bluffing is important part of game, but you can`t play just with that singular strategy every few seconds - It will get you nowhere.
 
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I don't bluff at hyper HUSNGs. I just wait for decent pocket cards and play it out if I there is good flop for me.
And I mostly know when my opponent bluffs after flop after their carefull bets so I mostly raise there to win it faster.
 
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bluffing works, you just have to do it right ;)

you say you are doing all these things, but be careful not to do them just to do them.. you want to have a reason and know why you are doing them otherwise you might be trying a play against an opponant or board type that just won't work that often.

example

good triple barelling board

2 7 8 dd- if we get called on this board there are diamonds we can barrell on, or pretty much any card above a T. If the board runs out J K and we triple barrell, his most likely hand a 7x or 8x will have a real tough time calling. It's a dynamic board that can change a lot.

however boards like-
KQ8

this is a static board, nothing much can change, so lets assume vilian has Qx on this board theres not that many cards on turn/river that can change this board, an A or J T might scare him but that's about it, his second pair is likely to still be second pair by the river.

Just a quick example. However if you didn't know the above, and you don't exactly know why you are doing things for what reason and how to every type of opponant you face then you will find it hard to beat these games over the long run.
 
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Everyone seems ridiculously aggro. Theres no point cbetting at all. I rarely ever do it. Reason because 1. Nearly everyone is a station and will float with air / gutshots. 2. If you do connect or have a draw, they will try and steal it on the turn with literally any garbage, so you can call turn, then they will check river = they have nothing. We can Simply bet river with either made hand or busted draw to take it. Or if they bet river they 90% have something decent.
( must be done IP).

I really don't know why people say to cbet nearly every flop "they will likely have missed". Yeah, that doesn't mean they're gonna fold does it...
I find myself leveling myself if I try to do anything fancy.

Been on a crazy downswing. Literally 90% of hands I'm ahead of I'm losing. Situations where it seems impossible for villain to catch up, an they will constantly hit miracles.

When we shove and get it in pre now, I'm literally dreading the cards coming out, I just know I'm gonna get sucked out on. Do you feel like this on a downswing?
 
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on a crazy downswing. Literally 90% of hands I'm ahead of I'm losing.

Your mental game still needs a TON of work. I guarantee that you're not losing 90% of hands when you get them in ahead (or start out ahead). You've lost objectivity and you're getting spewy.

Fix your mental game, and you have some hope. If you don't, you are doomed.

-HooDooKoo
 
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I rarely bluff on any hypers, especially HUSNGs. There they will call your barrels with a medium pair or even with a lowest pair. When the blinds are high I shove almost everytime with an Ace or KJ+ or pairs. I also never slowplay premium hands. All in all, except for the first few levels, I play push/fold poker.
 
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