Spin&Go Strategies

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Hi cardchatters,

I think it would be nice to have a thread about spin&go strategies.
Not only the discussion about, if to play them or not to play them.
One thread without the opinions, oh it is gambling
and lottery and so on. I think there are already a lot of them here.

I like to play them beside other poker games as well, because they are short and fun for me, when there is no time for a longer session.
And of course I want to play them as well profitable.

Interesting would be for me for example, how you are doing about bet sizes.
How you recognize fishes quickly? What is your strategy when there are still
3 people left and how you change when you are in HU?
About levelling, up, about brm, really about anything, that is interesting on the
topic of spins.

I look forward to hear from you
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Thanks, actually it happened for the first time for me, since I had played something between 500 and 1000 spin & go's so far.

You should be confident in these, do not fold easy any connected hand. Read the opponents, if you reach HU with a strong one, be patient. And do not continue endless play at these. After some hours of play, you may only lower your winning streak ...
 
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You have rightly noticed that this is a lottery. Therefore, it is not possible to confidently play and win. It's luck. You can stick to some strategy that slightly increases your chances, but no more. There are many other formats where your winnings depend more on your skills. But unfortunately, they are being cut.
 
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I play spin and go's if it's my final table in a tournament. So lot's of people are saying it's a lottery. But when I look at 888poker one, that is more lotterij than PS.
 
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I play Spin and Go's if it's my final table in a tournament. So lot's of people are saying it's a lottery. But when I look at 888poker one, that is more lotterij than PS.

Yes, I also think like this. This terrible blast just makes it like a lottery.
In my opinion, it would be nice if they changed it to a normal spin&go/twister or how you want to name it.
 
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You have rightly noticed that this is a lottery. Therefore, it is not possible to confidently play and win. It's luck. You can stick to some strategy that slightly increases your chances, but no more. There are many other formats where your winnings depend more on your skills. But unfortunately, they are being cut.

Thanks a lot for your post. But then honestly, you can say any type of poker is luck. Some people judge poker like this generally. How then can HU players confidently win at all?
Is it also just a lottery then? I know as well other formats and play them a lot, if
I have time. A small SNG with normal speed just cost about 1 - 1,5 hour of
your appreciated lifetime....

Therefore I would like to hear more constructive opinions about the Spin&Go
 
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I think you should treat the spin and go like every other turbo. Starting hand strengths are generally lower because you do have only 3 players, so you can expect that J or Q high can often be monsters, as are any pairs. You are right on the money when you recognize that you are playing a final table, except that it is a winner take all. And I agree that they don't take much time and you can choose how much you want to spend. But I do not believe there is a guaranteed winning strategy. I play them and am not sure if the only real gain is from the fpp's earned. But break even is profitable if you only gain starscoins. So keep playing if you enjoy, and hope to make the big spin just once.
 
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I do not go all in first couple of hands unless I have a hand AJ+ 99+.
On lower levels there are persons that shove all hands easy to identify them after playing a couple hands 5 or so. Becareful 2 or 3 hand size to identify these players are too small sometimes they can just be a good player with good hands.

3 handed play pretty snug first set of hands about 10 or so try to gauge players once u got some idea how they play you make the necessary adjustments of course if you get a hand you play it. If opponent(s) on tight side raise small almost all hands if they are aggressive be a little more selective and look for good spots to be aggressive like shoving with top pair to a CBet you cannot play passively always got to punch back when you have a hand.

30-50 buyin bankroll range could be used if now starting maybe more they are very swingy.

If you use a hud I can give you some tips on what to look for in terms of stats just let me know.
 
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I do not go all in first couple of hands unless I have a hand AJ+ 99+.
On lower levels there are persons that shove all hands easy to identify them after playing a couple hands 5 or so. Becareful 2 or 3 hand size to identify these players are too small sometimes they can just be a good player with good hands.

3 handed play pretty snug first set of hands about 10 or so try to gauge players once u got some idea how they play you make the necessary adjustments of course if you get a hand you play it. If opponent(s) on tight side raise small almost all hands if they are aggressive be a little more selective and look for good spots to be aggressive like shoving with top pair to a CBet you cannot play passively always got to punch back when you have a hand.

30-50 buyin bankroll range could be used if now starting maybe more they are very swingy.

If you use a hud I can give you some tips on what to look for in terms of stats just let me know.

Hi Joeisi,

thanks for your answer. Yes, I am using a hud usually. It would be nice, if you
could share on what to look during the Spins.
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In this game I do not have a specific strategy. I play by intuition. On the 100 dollar tables are the same people. All fish are marked with a marker. With 25 cent tables is more difficult, since players are much more :)
 
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One simple advice I can give you is to make a trap to your oppononents, analize them and see their patterns
 
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Hi Joeisi,

thanks for your answer. Yes, I am using a hud usually. It would be nice, if you
could share on what to look during the Spins.
=^..^=

As always these are my thoughts and opinions and these are some of things I use they may not work for everyone.


Average stats are around below they look a bit crazy compared to regular full tables.

Three handed VPIP 35 PFR 25 AF 3

Heads up VPIP 43 PFR 38 AF 4.5


What you look for is for persons that vary from these and then exploit them by adjusting your game.

Most common example a lot of players have a VPIP in the 50s but little to no PFR they are trying to play small ball so a good strategy is to be more aggressive with good hands. Also if you see them all of a sudden raise hughe preflop usually means they have the goods.

3Bet% average is about 10% for good players but this is stat is dependent if they are facing raisers. I do not read into a lot just the basic if someone is above 15% means they are 3 betting relatively light or if someone 5% or less 3 Bet jams they usually have of course if you limp a lot this stat is skewed.

Three interesting stats I added a while a back that I starting using for spin n gos specifically is Cbet%, Fold to Cbet% and Flop Donk Bet%. These I use to guage aggression post flop. If they Cbet a lot I raise flop lighter if they don't Cbet alot I would donk bet flops to protect hands and also in spots where I want to check raise. If they fold to Cbet a lot Cbet lighter than usual if they don't fold to Cbet often check air and little value hands more and Cbetbigger with strong hands. Players are tending to donk small often more once I can recognise that with Donk% stat I raise with or without hands normally gets a fold 80-90% of time.
 
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Hey Joeisi,

thanks a lot for your recommendation. I think, I will adjust my HUD to this for the spins. I want to give it a try. I did not changed it so far at all. My HUD is still like on normal SNGs.
For me it sounds very logical, what you write. I saw already people on youtube recording their spin&go games with a hud, that is as long like the river Nil.
But honestly, I can't do this during game. So far I am still relative newbie using a hud. But I think, I need it very clear and obviously during game, not so overcrowded. Therefore I think, I will adjust mine to the stats that you mentioned.
Thanks a lot for your post.

I wish you good luck and big pricepools at you spins!
Your whiskers =^..^=
 
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Spin go is lottery but If you know to play more than average player poker just be agressive and dont make fail movements,play hands slowlier and you can make nice profit.
 
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30-50 buyin bankroll range could be used if now starting maybe more they are very swingy.
For these games playing with a bankroll management rule of 30-50 buyin its very veeery aggresive to say the least. Your risk of ruin (RoR) its very high and unless you have the possibility to reload if busto and/or run hotter than the sun i cant imagine this been a healthy bankroll strategy.
 
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Hello, I want to share my experience with Spin and Go´s

I have been playing them only for a short time (about 100-150 entries)
but one thing I noticed is that variety is really, really high and I personally dont like that.
Even thought I have been profitable playing them, I stopped playing them beacuse I lost some unbelievable hands where the variety really punched me in the face.
 
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Don't be to agressive on the low levels. Wait a few hands to figure out how your opponent are playing. You must be far more active when the blinds went up to 30/60, 40/80 and above. You will lose a lot as a favorite, but in the long term it's ok and you will see the positive result.
 
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I really like the spin and go tournaments. There are pretty weak players playing, I think, and I often win.
 
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I agree on 30-50 buyins being to low. you will run in to bad streak, more often than not your will be knocked out by a weaker/domintated (ex. KQ>AK) hand that some set over set action or 3rd flush into 2nd
 
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One day I lost 200 bucks in spin and go, which I won in a regular tournament before, since I do not play this shit)))
 
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I already won 120 dollars in the spin go, and on the same day he took me back, lol, I keep playing, so some advice, he made some good money in the spin spin, let it go for a while, or else he'll lose everything again.
 
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There should be no strategy except being aggressive withy premium hands. Vey much a crap shoot if you ask me. very little skill involved.
 
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A horrible high variance game... Best advice is to find a better game.
 
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