Someone explain odds to me please because . . .

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I'm a 1$ 9 man sng, 3 people left I'm bottom stack but only by 1k or so blinds are 100/200 this guy who was chip leader raise nearly every round when I was BB I even wrote in the chat dude I know your got nothing, but I knew if I shoved he'd call anyway I just keep biding my time, ok so few hands later he raises me again, I have A,Q BB I reraise 2/3 of my stack he reraises me again,.. I go ok what the **** I push whats left all in, he shows 7,3 he then proceed to tell me he has odds to call. just what? seriously what? I don't understand this logic.. I can understand raising a rubbish hand as a bluff to steal blinds but if someone reraised you back why would you commit yourself on a shit hand like that? He had me covered for sure but still I go back to my previous statement. WHAT?!?!?!

Also I don't mean to always make threads I just got alot of time on ma hands atm
 
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It might be the pot odds he's talking about.
If he got 40% chance of winning the pot, then he should call with almost anything. In this case I don't think that his chance is 40% though, but he'll be getting paid very good if he wins, and that is, sometimes, enough for some people to call with any two cards.
I can't remember the exact calculation for it, but I think that if there's 300 in the pot and the other player puts in 200, then you can call any draw, almost even a gutshot or a backdoor. At least if you've passed the bubble.
300+200 = 500 which gives you a good pay if you win. You have to put in 200 to win 500, which gives you the "right" odds to call many hands.

I hope it makes sense. :)

Regards!
 
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Means that if he can call with any 2 cards and win in the long run. Example ak vs 109 is about 60/40. He only needs to put in 40% of the pot to make be profitable in the long run. This was poorly explained sorry. Google it
 
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theres a good section of poker odds explained on this forum so you can just search it! poker = know your odds
 
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The pot is as follows...assuming you have a 1k stack.

100(sb) + 200(bb) + 660(raise) + 460(you call) + 340(you shove over) = 1760

Your opponent only needs to call another 340 more to win a pot of 1760, giving him ~5:1 odds on his money. So, yes he did have odds to call with any two cards.

Look at it this way, your opponent is going to fold for 340 more after putting in 660. No matter what hand they're holding.
 
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Basically, you had been folding to any sort of pressure from him, you told him in the chat box you knew what he was doing, but kept folding anyways. Then when you finally do shove back with a good hand against his supposed ATC, you only put in 2/3 of your stack. \

Now, at this point he already has enough money invested (not sure on exact amounts as you didn't provide any figures) that almost ATC become playable. You also have no fold equity, and when a player (you) puts in 2/3 of their stack, they're going all the way with the hand anyways (i assume). Villian correctly assumed at that point there was really no betting left to do and got straight to the point.

Had you just shoved instead of re-reaising 2/3'rd you wouldn't of offered him the correct odds to call with 7 3. By 3-betting like you did it wasn't much for him to call compared to the size of the pot.

Hope this helps. I'm a bit drunk so it makes sense to me.
 
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The pot is as follows...assuming you have a 1k stack.

100(sb) + 200(bb) + 660(raise) + 460(you call) + 340(you shove over) = 1760

Your opponent only needs to call another 340 more to win a pot of 1760, giving him ~5:1 odds on his money. So, yes he did have odds to call with any two cards.

Look at it this way, your opponent is not going to fold for 340 more after putting in 660. No matter what hand they're holding.

fyp

^^^this^^^

Could be explained even further if you had a hand history so we could se exactly chip stacks and who was SB and BB
 
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you antagonize the big stack and then are surprized when he tries to knock you out?

and you dont have aa or kk or even a pair?
 
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