tomh7795
Visionary
Silver Level
I know that many player will know this but i haven't seen a lot of info compared to the many other things.
Imagine it's the first hand of a 9 handed sng. Everyone has 11.11% of the equity. You go all in first hand with aq vs kjs. you have aq
41% - (11.11) + 59% (20.30)
42 x 0.11 = 4.62 = - 4.51%
58 x 0.09 = 5.22 = 5.22%
-4.51 + 5.22 = 0.71
Even though you gain 0.71 equity, that is a very small amount when being a 60% favourite. In a $5 9 man sng (where the prize pool is $45) thats only 0.63 cents. that you gain in the long run.
Another hand is a classic coin flip where your a decent favourite for a coinflip. we have QQ against ak all in pre-flop first hand at 9 handed sng.
43% -(11.11) + 57 (20.30)
45% x 0.11 = 4.95
55% x 0.09 = 4.95
So here as a 55% favourite we are only making even with our equity (with the equity's i use it to 1 decimal place so they are close but not pin point) but it really makes no difference. Even if i was a little bit off it would only change a few cents difference.
This time it's the bubble and we all have even stacks. So we all have 25% of the prizepool. Forgot about icm and all that here. let's just say we all have 18 bb and some idiot shoves with 109s. We call with AK. you do a dance and say woohoo i'm ahead lol. But are you really?
Lets look at the equity here.
42% - (25%) + 58% (12%)
42 x 0.25 = -10.5%
58 x 0.12 + 6.96%
-10.5 - 6.96 = -3.54.
This hand we're losing 3.54% equity on average when we were a 58% favourite. The player who got the spare equity was the players who folded.
Now if you look at that hand from the 109s suited view.
58% - (25%) = 42% (12%)
58 x 0.25 = 14.5= - 14.5%
42 x 0.12 = 5.04 = 5.04%
-14.5% + 5.04 = 9.46%
So your losing 9.46% equity on average. So when your ahead (showdown value wise) your could be behind on equity.
If i made any mistakes then i am sorry. If you don't get the math or how i got a certain figure can you just show me where and i can explain it again.
I was planning on writing a guide on how to play sng but there are hundreds online so i thought i would do something different. There are better players then me who could do a much better job then me. I was just pointing out this concept that involves sng a lot more then cash or tournaments. I haven't seen a lot off info with this so i thought i would write something.
This is the equity you have at the table when all the stacks are even
9 players with 1500 each you have 11.11% equity
8 players left with 1687 each you have 12.53% equity
7 players left with 1928 each you have 14.325 equity
6 players left with 2250 each you have 16.67% equity
5 players left with 2700 each you have 20.095% equity
4 players left with 3375 each you have 25% equity
3 players left with 4500 each you have 33.39% equity
2 players left with 6750 each have 40% equity
1 player with 13500 has won with 50% of the equity.
One more thing. I wanna say sorry to dakota-xx for saying what i said. Shouldn't have said that.
Well i hope you can use this in your next sng and helps review your sessions and hands.
good luck yall
Imagine it's the first hand of a 9 handed sng. Everyone has 11.11% of the equity. You go all in first hand with aq vs kjs. you have aq
41% - (11.11) + 59% (20.30)
42 x 0.11 = 4.62 = - 4.51%
58 x 0.09 = 5.22 = 5.22%
-4.51 + 5.22 = 0.71
Even though you gain 0.71 equity, that is a very small amount when being a 60% favourite. In a $5 9 man sng (where the prize pool is $45) thats only 0.63 cents. that you gain in the long run.
Another hand is a classic coin flip where your a decent favourite for a coinflip. we have QQ against ak all in pre-flop first hand at 9 handed sng.
43% -(11.11) + 57 (20.30)
45% x 0.11 = 4.95
55% x 0.09 = 4.95
So here as a 55% favourite we are only making even with our equity (with the equity's i use it to 1 decimal place so they are close but not pin point) but it really makes no difference. Even if i was a little bit off it would only change a few cents difference.
This time it's the bubble and we all have even stacks. So we all have 25% of the prizepool. Forgot about icm and all that here. let's just say we all have 18 bb and some idiot shoves with 109s. We call with AK. you do a dance and say woohoo i'm ahead lol. But are you really?
Lets look at the equity here.
42% - (25%) + 58% (12%)
42 x 0.25 = -10.5%
58 x 0.12 + 6.96%
-10.5 - 6.96 = -3.54.
This hand we're losing 3.54% equity on average when we were a 58% favourite. The player who got the spare equity was the players who folded.
Now if you look at that hand from the 109s suited view.
58% - (25%) = 42% (12%)
58 x 0.25 = 14.5= - 14.5%
42 x 0.12 = 5.04 = 5.04%
-14.5% + 5.04 = 9.46%
So your losing 9.46% equity on average. So when your ahead (showdown value wise) your could be behind on equity.
If i made any mistakes then i am sorry. If you don't get the math or how i got a certain figure can you just show me where and i can explain it again.
I was planning on writing a guide on how to play sng but there are hundreds online so i thought i would do something different. There are better players then me who could do a much better job then me. I was just pointing out this concept that involves sng a lot more then cash or tournaments. I haven't seen a lot off info with this so i thought i would write something.
This is the equity you have at the table when all the stacks are even
9 players with 1500 each you have 11.11% equity
8 players left with 1687 each you have 12.53% equity
7 players left with 1928 each you have 14.325 equity
6 players left with 2250 each you have 16.67% equity
5 players left with 2700 each you have 20.095% equity
4 players left with 3375 each you have 25% equity
3 players left with 4500 each you have 33.39% equity
2 players left with 6750 each have 40% equity
1 player with 13500 has won with 50% of the equity.
One more thing. I wanna say sorry to dakota-xx for saying what i said. Shouldn't have said that.
Well i hope you can use this in your next sng and helps review your sessions and hands.
good luck yall