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Right so i have decided that SnG's are going to be the bread and butter of my poker career. They are most deffinately my forteit. But what little things are SnG specific to me moving up the ranks?
 
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you need two things:

1. http://sngwiz.com/

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the second one because when you'll be on your first 20 or 30 buy-ins losing streak, you'll want to shoot yourself in the face for chosing SNGs as your bread and butter.
 
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Search the internet for a SNG Strategy Guide called "Comedy Of Errors". It'll give you a decent foundation in which to work from.
 
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One of the key tips is something Howard Lederer has mentioned many times when asked about SNGs.

He goes into the math of it a bit. I won't go into that here.

But, basically what he advises is play for 3rd place until you are in the money. From that point play for first.

It seems simple on the surface. But, it is a fairly complex strategy which from my experience works well.
 
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Well, you already think you are doing well at SNGs, is that correct? And you want to move to higher limits as you gain a bankroll?

From what I can tell, although I have not tried higher priced SNGs (the highest I will play is $20 but I have watched the higher limit ones play out), the aggression factor goes up rather dramatically as the buy in gets greater. A low levels, SNGs are pretty soft -- full of weaker looser players who pretty much spew their chips on lesser holdings. The higher you go, the more sharks you run into. Fewer people play in each hand. The pots tend to be bigger. The higher the buy-in, the less likely you will be able to limp in to any hand -- nearly every hand is raised.

So not only do you need to adjust to the stronger play, your bankroll should probably be a bit larger in relation to the buy-ins, as your results will likely be a bit more swingy.

My personal aversion to playing at higher buy-ins has to do with my own comfort zone. And my current BR... :D

Whatever you play, do use good bankroll management, so that the inevitable downswings will not bother you too much.
 
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Well, you already think you are doing well at SNGs, is that correct? And you want to move to higher limits as you gain a bankroll?

From what I can tell, although I have not tried higher priced SNGs (the highest I will play is $20 but I have watched the higher limit ones play out), the aggression factor goes up rather dramatically as the buy in gets greater. A low levels, SNGs are pretty soft -- full of weaker looser players who pretty much spew their chips on lesser holdings. The higher you go, the more sharks you run into. Fewer people play in each hand. The pots tend to be bigger. The higher the buy-in, the less likely you will be able to limp in to any hand -- nearly every hand is raised.

So not only do you need to adjust to the stronger play, your bankroll should probably be a bit larger in relation to the buy-ins, as your results will likely be a bit more swingy.

My personal aversion to playing at higher buy-ins has to do with my own comfort zone. And my current BR... :D

Whatever you play, do use good bankroll management, so that the inevitable downswings will not bother you too much.
^^
good answer.. agreed.
It's a different game as you move up in buyin levels. Try watching a few games at higher limits to gain a better understanding of how the game is played.
 
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Well, you already think you are doing well at SNGs, is that correct? And you want to move to higher limits as you gain a bankroll?

From what I can tell, although I have not tried higher priced SNGs (the highest I will play is $20 but I have watched the higher limit ones play out), the aggression factor goes up rather dramatically as the buy in gets greater. A low levels, SNGs are pretty soft -- full of weaker looser players who pretty much spew their chips on lesser holdings. The higher you go, the more sharks you run into. Fewer people play in each hand. The pots tend to be bigger. The higher the buy-in, the less likely you will be able to limp in to any hand -- nearly every hand is raised.

So not only do you need to adjust to the stronger play, your bankroll should probably be a bit larger in relation to the buy-ins, as your results will likely be a bit more swingy.

My personal aversion to playing at higher buy-ins has to do with my own comfort zone. And my current BR... :D

Whatever you play, do use good bankroll management, so that the inevitable downswings will not bother you too much.

^^
good answer.. agreed.
It's a different game as you move up in buyin levels. Try watching a few games at higher limits to gain a better understanding of how the game is played.
+1
I am going to watch the 10NL games, see how they are. I may end up using the the SSS at them, but the tight SSS...
 
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the second one because when you'll be on your first 20 or 30 buy-ins losing streak, you'll want to shoot yourself in the face for chosing SNGs as your bread and butter.

It can really get that bad? UGH.
 
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Thanks for all the responses, yeah im a profitable player over the past 300 SnG's and have just about mastered the $3.40 level so i am wanting to move up to the $5.50 level when i reach $300 i have about $170 atm. Does anyone think this is conservative and i should move up earlier?
 
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Also i have grinded up from $20
 
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If you havent already Daley, I recommend you Buy Collin Moshman's Sit & Go strategy. There is really no book close to this one when it comes to sngs. It was described as "the bible of sit and go's" lol.

Also the SNG wiz is an absoulte must for gettting your ICM bubble play sorted.

Best of luck, hope you keep up the winning!
 
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One of the key tips is something Howard Lederer has mentioned many times when asked about SNGs.

He goes into the math of it a bit. I won't go into that here.

But, basically what he advises is play for 3rd place until you are in the money. From that point play for first.

It seems intuitive now, but I had no concept of this before and started my SNG efforts with the "play to win, not to cash" approach of tournaments. This caused me to go out 4th/5th too many times.
 
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Dale, IMHO I think your BR is fine to start adding some $5.50 games into your mix. Start out by adding only 2 tables at a time and see how the 1st 20 ganes go.
 
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go for it

i would recommend staing at a table with 20 buy in 6 man those are my favorite ive had more cash ind and wins in these then i can remember the payouts are sweet.
 
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Well, you already think you are doing well at SNGs, is that correct? And you want to move to higher limits as you gain a bankroll?

From what I can tell, although I have not tried higher priced SNGs (the highest I will play is $20 but I have watched the higher limit ones play out), the aggression factor goes up rather dramatically as the buy in gets greater. A low levels, SNGs are pretty soft -- full of weaker looser players who pretty much spew their chips on lesser holdings. The higher you go, the more sharks you run into. Fewer people play in each hand. The pots tend to be bigger. The higher the buy-in, the less likely you will be able to limp in to any hand -- nearly every hand is raised.

So not only do you need to adjust to the stronger play, your bankroll should probably be a bit larger in relation to the buy-ins, as your results will likely be a bit more swingy.

My personal aversion to playing at higher buy-ins has to do with my own comfort zone. And my current BR... :D

Whatever you play, do use good bankroll management, so that the inevitable downswings will not bother you too much.


very good advice move up to a level that your br and your skill is comftrobale with.... gl at the tables...
 
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