SNG Equity & ROI: Understanding Key Poker Tournament Concepts (VIDEO)

#1 February 21st, 2020, 6:25 PM

From defining Equity and ROI in poker SNGs and tournaments, how to use game selection to capitalize on ROI, and combining the two concepts for optimum effect, Poker Experts and CardsChat Ambassadors Collin Moshman and Katie Dozier talk us through some key poker tournament concepts that you can apply to either MTTs or Sit-N-Goes.

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#2 February 26th, 2020, 1:16 PM

Thanks for posting this video Tammy, if anyone has questions or comments please feel free to give them here SNG Equity & ROI: Understanding Key Poker Tournament Concepts (VIDEO)

SNG Equity & ROI: Understanding Key Poker Tournament Concepts (VIDEO)

#3 February 26th, 2020, 8:00 PM

Nice, quick explanation...thanks for the video

#4 March 2nd, 2020, 6:54 PM

Didactic video with some laughs from Katie to complement the explanation of the subject. The main thing is choosing the best tournaments for your level of play will help you to increase your profit.

#5 March 2nd, 2020, 7:44 PM

a lot of difference between playing MTT or playing SNG, since one imagines that they are two different calculations at the time of taking out the ROI .. and thanks to this video it explains well, very explicitly and above all it extends very well ,,, thanks

#6 March 2nd, 2020, 8:39 PM

Originally Posted by acidburnfx

Didactic video with some laughs from Katie to complement the explanation of the subject. The main thing is choosing the best tournaments for your level of play will help you to increase your profit.

Aw, thanks! Glad to hear SNG Equity & ROI: Understanding Key Poker Tournament Concepts (VIDEO)

#7 March 3rd, 2020, 1:37 PM

A good introductory video about the fundamentals of ROI.

Of course, there is difference between playing MTTS and playing SnGs. I struggled with the concept of ROI at my first years playing poker, and it costed me a lot of deep run in some events.

To be honest, it takes a lot of practice to finally acquire a solid grasp of this concept.

#8 March 3rd, 2020, 9:51 PM

In general the use of the term 'equity' is quite loose these days. You can here it in Twitch streams where a tournament player is thinking his next move and concidering if this or that decision gives him enough equity, when in reality he is actually thinking his pot odds vs outs.

This kind of information can make your head spin, especially if you are a novice.

The video takes another approach towards equity and gives a correct explanation how the value of chips changes during a tournament, but since it doesn't explain the other possible uses of term it can leave a noob hanging.

#9 March 4th, 2020, 2:49 AM

hear it, not here it

That was brain fart even by my non-native speaking standards.

#10 March 4th, 2020, 3:57 AM

Thank you very much for the video has helped me a lot, I like to play 9 or 10 player sngs, and this video helped me improve my game.

#11 March 4th, 2020, 9:16 PM

Originally Posted by ammje

Thank you very much for the video has helped me a lot, I like to play 9 or 10 player sngs, and this video helped me improve my game.

That�s great to hear/here

Ammje!

And Nafour�don�t be so hard on yourself SNG Equity & ROI: Understanding Key Poker Tournament Concepts (VIDEO)

I think your English is very impressive!

#12 March 4th, 2020, 11:17 PM

An austere and apt video, very helpfull for Equity and ROI. Equity and ROI are like a danger bell for our games, showing us that we must change something to return to profit.

#13 March 5th, 2020, 3:21 PM

Nice quick fun video explaining the basics of ROI and Equity. I am always happy when someone busts before me. Are you gaining equity if you are not past the bubble though. I do like that you can find so many free ICM charts online. I am a recreational player, so sometimes these calculations can get to be a bit much.

#14 March 6th, 2020, 6:22 AM

After watching the video, my understanding of equity and ROI increased very much. I didn't understand some of the details, but now I understand them. Thank you for explaining everything in simple language

#15 March 6th, 2020, 6:57 AM

Interesting, ROI and ICM are important concepts, but I searched and don't see much people doing videos about that, anyway this is a great content, thank you Colin and Katie for share your knowledge with us SNG Equity & ROI: Understanding Key Poker Tournament Concepts (VIDEO)

#16 March 6th, 2020, 5:12 PM

Originally Posted by BullXT

Interesting, ROI and ICM are important concepts, but I searched and don't see much people doing videos about that, anyway this is a great content, thank you Colin and Katie for share your knowledge with us SNG Equity & ROI: Understanding Key Poker Tournament Concepts (VIDEO)

Awesome, I�m so happy that you enjoyed it! SNG Equity & ROI: Understanding Key Poker Tournament Concepts (VIDEO)

#17 March 6th, 2020, 9:46 PM

Thank you for the helpful and informative video! I am going to start tracking my results so I have an understanding of what my ROI is!

#18 March 9th, 2020, 2:05 AM

Excellent explanation, I really liked the video explained by these great professionals, I love hearing Katie's laugh, I loved the concept (How to maximize our equity) and (Understandings Key Torney Concepts ) Thank you for the video

#19 March 9th, 2020, 12:35 PM

There is really no other way to increase ROI without studying hard and trying to get to know the field. Sit and go is excellent for mastering various poker skills.

#20 March 9th, 2020, 3:27 PM

Originally Posted by mackmasterss

Excellent explanation, I really liked the video explained by these great professionals, I love hearing Katie's laugh, I loved the concept (How to maximize our equity) and (Understandings Key Torney Concepts ) Thank you for the video

Awww

that�s really nice to hear, thank you!

#21 March 9th, 2020, 4:37 PM

Good video, but very short. If you play poker seriously, you are unlikely to learn anything new. These are just the basics of the strategy that every player who wants to achieve something usually learns.

#22 March 10th, 2020, 4:36 PM

good video by collin and katie to learn the basics of sng's equity and roi for begginers to make more profits, i like the simplicity of explaining the main goal of the video bu both kattie and collin, great job guys

#23 March 11th, 2020, 2:25 AM

Good understanding of explained very well about equity and its important concept and ROI. These tools that we often leave aside, are very important to become professional in poker.
I particularly liked it a lot, but I have some difficulty in following standards and manuals and with time in practice I am very good at it.

#24 March 14th, 2020, 2:14 AM

Hey knowing the math is important!

The last CC freeroll I played left me in pain. Had I given some thought to my equity, being 36th out of 38 players and only two players to bust out before the money - I probably would have made a better decision. The situation at the time was, me holding AKo and I was short stacked so I shoved.

The next time I am in that situation, I will lean more to folding based on my equity.

My question is simple - how does equity work in a freeroll!

I did not pay. How does that affect the mathematics - just curious SNG Equity & ROI: Understanding Key Poker Tournament Concepts (VIDEO)

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This was a wonderful video and explained with a healthy dose of humour.

Thank you guys.

#25 March 14th, 2020, 9:44 AM

Everything is clear. But as it has been noted before, there is one simple and curious question:

Originally Posted by redboy23

My question is simple - how does equity work in a freeroll!
I did not pay. How does that affect the mathematics - just curious SNG Equity & ROI: Understanding Key Poker Tournament Concepts (VIDEO)

.

#26 March 15th, 2020, 7:22 PM

Good question on equity in a freeroll!

The answer is that there isn't an effect besides a different way of calculating.

For example, suppose there's a $50 freeroll with 100 entrants. The average player has equity of $0.50. That's true whether it's a freeroll or everyone put up the money to buy in. ICM calculations will be the same too. So it's a nice result!

#27 March 16th, 2020, 4:18 AM

Wohh very interesting video im more a cash player so i didnt know very well thouse concepts,i have heer about ROI but i didnt kno wath it means, thanks Collin an Katie

#28 March 16th, 2020, 9:12 AM

Cool video, and most importantly funny. Made out the main thing for yourself, you need to be able to switch speeds depending on the number of players remaining, which is personally a problem for me, as soon as I get a big stack I play without brakes)

#29 March 16th, 2020, 10:33 AM

Return on investment or ROI for short is the best way to determine the profitability of SNG tournaments. As I understand it, if you want to get a close to reliable estimate of your ROI, then you must play at least 1000 SNG tournaments.

But even then, if you play in a large number of SNG tournaments, variance will have a significant impact on ROI. However, 1000 SNG tournaments are widely regarded as the number of tournaments that you must play before drawing any conclusions about your ROI.

In order to get a good idea of what your real ROI is, you should strive for a mark of 5,000 SNG tournaments played.

#30 March 16th, 2020, 5:57 PM

Apparently the video is good ,but without understanding the language is meaningless

#31 March 17th, 2020, 2:40 AM

Originally Posted by Ventoman777

Return on investment or ROI for short is the best way to determine the profitability of SNG tournaments. As I understand it, if you want to get a close to reliable estimate of your ROI, then you must play at least 1000 SNG tournaments.

But even then, if you play in a large number of SNG tournaments, variance will have a significant impact on ROI. However, 1000 SNG tournaments are widely regarded as the number of tournaments that you must play before drawing any conclusions about your ROI.

In order to get a good idea of what your real ROI is, you should strive for a mark of 5,000 SNG tournaments played.

I enjoyed the video and my only question was about this subject. How many tournaments should you play before you can say the ROI is reliable?

Is it really 1000? 5000? Is it people who earn money from rake saying this?

If am am losing money after 100 SNG, should I not care until I have done another 900, then think about changing my strategy? If I have a hugely profitable ROI after 1000 MTTs, should I wait till I get to 5000 before I up my stakes?

For one thing, I don't believe that your level of play would be the same over 1000 games. Surely you would improve over that time, so that the first set of 500 games would have a lower ROI than the second 500?

Also you must bear in mind past performance is no guarantee of future returns.

#32 March 17th, 2020, 4:53 AM

Excelent video, a lot off new thighs i have learn today

#33 March 19th, 2020, 2:47 PM

I looked at my ROI and do not understand what this means and how I should interpret it. Thanks Collin for the explanation. I will learn more about ROI and equity.

#34 March 19th, 2020, 8:35 PM

Thank you Collin and Katie for the video! I also liked a lot Katies laugh and jokes. I have a question about ROI and rake. Is the ROI counted with rake and without rakeback? Like you play 10$ SNG where the rake is 39snt is the rake included there and you just count your ROI straight from it and possible rakeback is just bonus?

#35 March 20th, 2020, 4:25 PM

Yep, this pretty much sums it up SNG Equity & ROI: Understanding Key Poker Tournament Concepts (VIDEO)

I expect a follow up videos, with a tad bit more examples and info for beginners! Keep it up SNG Equity & ROI: Understanding Key Poker Tournament Concepts (VIDEO)

#36 March 22nd, 2020, 9:53 AM

ROI and ICM are very important concepts, especially for the final table, and you explain it very well. The difference in prizes is very significant, and you need to understand ICM in order to get more profit!

#37 March 22nd, 2020, 4:31 PM

Know of Colin from Tournament poker edge, great coach! will check it out for sure

#38 March 22nd, 2020, 6:12 PM

This is pretty simple and understandable video about equity and ROI. It will be very helpful for everyone who is playing SnG and MTT tournaments. If you know how to calculate your own ROI percentage it will help you to achieve some goals in poker.

#39 March 22nd, 2020, 6:24 PM

Thanks for posting it Tammy!

#40 March 22nd, 2020, 7:30 PM

short and clear. thank you very much for publishing this article.
I hope your lessons will help improve the quality of my game.

#41 March 24th, 2020, 8:33 PM

A nice little video and I love the way Katie gets the spirits going with her infectious giggling. If only equity could be 100%.

Thanks Team

#42 March 25th, 2020, 12:19 AM

It is difficult to leave a comment without coinciding with the previous ones. It is a good video, but quite short. However, I am sure this would have enlightened several.

#43 March 25th, 2020, 2:01 PM

exelente video very well explained and easy to understand so .continue with great vidios to help us. I get used to play but SGN

#44 March 25th, 2020, 2:05 PM

thanks for the video!! SNG Equity & ROI: Understanding Key Poker Tournament Concepts (VIDEO)

#45 March 25th, 2020, 2:26 PM

After many years where I'm starting to play Poker again the ROI-concept of SNGs is still the same ;-)

Not a surprise. What I don't found in the forum is an overview of Rake in Micro/Low-Stakes SNG on different sites? Is there somewhere such an overview or is it planned (would be nice SNG Equity & ROI: Understanding Key Poker Tournament Concepts (VIDEO)

)? Thanks in advance!

#46 March 26th, 2020, 9:39 PM

I have to admit that for the first time, I play for these poker fields, even though I have been playing for 10 years, but recreationally, with no big money, just for fun, but now I have to pay more attention to ROI, quite often when I have something on my account, I play SnG , thanks for the explanation. SNG Equity & ROI: Understanding Key Poker Tournament Concepts (VIDEO)

#47 March 27th, 2020, 12:56 AM

Great video, easy to digest information.

Is it wrong when people say equitiy as in pot odds? I don't mind it, but then again, it goes hand in hand with what you said in the video.

ROI is pretty self explanatory, great video.

#48 March 27th, 2020, 1:48 AM

Most of the posts I have read on this thread have been helpful thanks guys

#49 March 27th, 2020, 2:26 PM

Excellent introductory video of ROI fundamentals.

It is important to differentiate between playing MTT and playing SnG because the calculations are different when calculating the ROI, And this video takes an interesting approach to equity and provides a good explanation of how the value of chips changes during a tournament.

#50 March 27th, 2020, 6:11 PM

Do you ever factor in time to ROI? For a lot of the freeroll games how would be determine ROI

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