sng AK vs QQ

3 deep stack all-in....

if you got AK or QQ, fold?

u never should fold premium hand if u want to be in top3 places

Not enough info to give a conclusive answer, need info like buy-in, blind structure, level, player reads if any, etc.

If you have a 3-way all in before it gets to you this sounds like a typical MTT freeroll, I would snap call with AK or QQ here because people are usually shoving any broadway card or suited, especially in the first level. If the tourney has been going on for enough time to get rid of most of the donks, and the players going all-in have been playing reasonably tight for a while, AK/QQ may be no good here.

if u know your opponents well u will decide to fold or call. Personaly for me AK is easy fold

i often fold AK there because many times other players have aces and kings there to decrease your odds and the 3rd player takes it down with his pocket pair.
on the other hand i never fold QQ there for the same reason i told you before..

without more info I'm inclined to say fold the AK and I'm 50/50 on whether or not to call with the QQ. depends on the situation. if it's first couple hands in a freeroll type situation, then yeah...I'll call with the QQ and hope both shovers have garbage or have eachother's outs.

If it's first few hands at the wsop main event, those ladies will hit the muck so fast they'll think they got straight up bitch slapped!

easy fold

When 3 deep stacked players are all in AK and QQ are easy folds. Because there is a chance that you are behind in atleast one of the spots.

Even if you call both these hands have a good chance of not holding up till the fifth street so it's best to fold and find another spot.

depends lol, ak is almost always a fold, and QQ is usually a fold too. but if your playing 180man sngs, then you might consider QQ, if you play 6max, then both are folds no matter what pretty much.

If I have QQ, I would shove all in...AK would get me to fold unless I'm feeling frisky and the other players have been shoving with low pps. But I never fold QQ.

More info? Of AK or QQ, QQ has a higher equity pre- and is your third strongest premium hand. But.. it depends on the stages of the SNG.. your reads on villain.. the table texture... blinds... M ratio... SPR... blah blah blah...

never fold AK or QQs... unless its 4 betted heads up

depends tournament....but 80% play with 3-bet both hands......and call all in pre flop only with 1 player

In this situation i`m not gonna fold cuz ur opponents cant insta-win the pot with only their hands whatever they are. Ain`t nothing permanently decided before river card. If u feel like u win with ur hand just call and see if u lucky or no. If u dont feel like u hold the best hand - fold as it is safe play anyway.

In response to a raise is important to know the opponent's style of play. Against a loose-aggressive players themselves reraise and see the reaction of opponents. If a player is unknown or better leveled tight enough to see the flop. If your raise reraise - act similarly.

soma382 said:

3 deep stack all-in....

if you got AK or QQ, fold?

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'it depends'

My QQ continually gets rolled, at the stage now almost tempted to fold it pre-flop

Yes I believe a lot more info is needed to make an educated decision here, it would come down to what ranges your opponents have and how often are people going all in, rarely would I ever fold QQ or AK in this situation regardless if I put AA on somebody! Sometimes when I look down at QQ and AK I know theres a chance that Im going all in and I just assume if I dont win it was ment to be!

Most of the time I will fold both hands because at least one of them has my hand dominated, so if I'm average or deepstaked I will fold, but if I'm short and tripling up here guarantees me a cash out, then why not.

I definitely fold given the situation.
I still remember this hand long years ago.
Fulltilt, cash game, I have QQ. Theres 2 all-ins (deep stack) infront of me and I accidentally push the call button. Villains had KK and AA. I got trips on the river.

you are usually going to be dominated in this spot but depends on your read on the players.

thatgreekdude said:

you are usually going to be dominated in this spot but depends on your read on the players.

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But even in a situation when a loose deepstack shoves and the other deepstack is aware of that and you expect him to be making that call with AQ, you have to fold AK, because the hand has only 35% equity to come out on top assuming the shover has TT or JJ and the caller has AQ.

QQ in the same situation I would be inclined to call, but then again it depends on a lot of factors.

Poker77_LV said:

u never should fold premium hand if u want to be in top3 places

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i folded good hands pre flop many times... when the risk doesn't compensate the wins.. like if you are almost getting on the prize pool, and you rlly need to get there, you can even fold a AA in a pre flop all by someone..

SwiftHax said:

But even in a situation when a loose deepstack shoves and the other deepstack is aware of that and you expect him to be making that call with AQ, you have to fold AK, because the hand has only 35% equity to come out on top assuming the shover has TT or JJ and the caller has AQ.

QQ in the same situation I would be inclined to call, but then again it depends on a lot of factors.

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I agree with you, here, that as usual it depends, but I'm also more inclined to make the call with QQ because it's now at least plausible that they might be sharing eachother's outs. OR, you might be facing 1 underpair and 2 overs.

With QQ the only extremely terrible situation for you is when they have AA or KK. it's possible, but not extremely likely. Out of all the possible hands that you might be facing only 2 are really bad news.

Holding QQ it's also possible that 1 of them has AK and the other has JJ. And this situation is so profitable for you to essentially get to flip with a lot of dead money in the pot....that you have to be REALLY convinced you are beat in at least 1 spot to fold.

Now, give me the same situation with AK and now it's A LOT more likely that some of my outs are already dead. Meaning my "flip" is not really a flip at all.
Because of all this, I'm more inclined to fold the AK to significant pressure and call with the QQ....depending on a ton more factors, of course.

And, I've never really heard this talked about much...I don't really know how to say it other than this: AK is really only ever "flipping" if you KNOW all your outs are live. in a 9 handed game you can never KNOW all your outs are live because people routinely fold Ace rag and King rag and King medium. If you hold the pair....you don't need to know anything about which cards have already been folded because you've already got your made hand. You're not playing for set value, you're playing the intrinsic value of your hand....I guess in short I'm trying to say: A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush. Or, a made hand is worth more than a bunch of hopefully live outs.

In my opinion, if you are in the cash, or if i have 2x,3x chips i call.

Earlier today there was 6 ppl in the 9ring sng shoving allin... I had Aksuited and I folded, I later won the tourney, I also would've won that hand but I won without risk