SNG 9Max - All in paid with 72o

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Hello!
I would like to have a small analyze of the next hand.
I've paid with 72o an all in by putting in the pot another 300 chips.
I would like to know your opinion if my reaction was correct taking in consideration the fact that I had only 4.5BB.
I'm at the beginning with SNG games and I'm following some tables when I play and according to them I shouldn't paid,but in the same time I would like to develop my own style.,and my instinct said to pay.
Now,after seeing again the hand,I see that only by luck I've could won that hand,and probably I tooked a wrong decision.
 

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you have few options with this stack. I can not see what your opponent's stacks, could you write?
 
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you would hardly win with 72o, I would pay if I had a better hand, some pair, brothers, A or K high, some suited connectors.

if you had at least one stack 10 times bigger than his, then you could even pay with that hand.
 
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It looks like you had at least 10bb of stack? If yes I think you never should call a open push with such a bad hand. You can open push to steal blinds but never call.

when you do a call you are betting against the odds that your hand as a pretty decent showdown value.

When you open push you aren't expecting to win at showdown.

Never call
 
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If you're going to play bad hands, you should be the one making the all-in because there is a chance your opponents will fold. Being the caller removes this chance and you end up having to gamble with a bad hand. 72o should be a fold there unless the opponent is shoving for under 3BB and you're in the big blind yourself.
 
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You had just posted your 300 chips big blind. The effective stack size in this hand is 2bb.
Your Stack size is not relevant in this hand. Villain then shoves over you for 613 chips (2bb). There is now (613 + 150 + 300) = 1063 in the pot and it costs you 313 to call. You need 313 / (613 + 150 + 300 + 313) % equity in order to make this call or 313/1376 = 22 = 22% Equity needed to call. Ok, so we all know that 72o gets a bad rep, and it should! It's total garbage. But the funny thing about 72o and other similar trash hands is that they are not 100% losers especially during short stacked situations. Far from it. Here's why:

72o wins:
12% of the time against AA
20% of the time against a range as strong as {JJ+ AKo AQs+}
26% of the time if Villain is playing a standard Reg Range of 14% {22+ ATs+ KTs+ QTs+ JTs AJo+ KJo+ QJo}
31% of the time against AKs.
And 35% of the time against ANY random two cards. (Stats courtesy of Flopzilla)



Your opponent was extremely short stacked and mathematically could shove with ANY TWO cards at that moment, so it was correct for them to attack your big blind. Your 72o had 35% equity against any two cards. You only needed 22%. So your call made you money immediately.



Even if we assume that Villain had {JJ+ AKo AQs+} then we still have 20% equity vs. that range so we could argue in that situation that your call was a little less than a coinflip. Either way I think it was a fine call for the stack involved and most players are not folding in that situation with any hand.





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